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Ferry over Bering Strait?
Does anyone know if there is a ferry going over Bering Strait? Unfortunatly Russia and usa don't like each other very much, at least earlier, so I suppose there is no boat? I guess there wouldn't be much traffic over anyway, but I have seen ferries on very strange places before. But meaybe not this remote...
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I've heard and i'm quite sure that there is a possibility to ship your bike by air from magadan to anchorage! You will find some information through the search function in the HUBB. It's been discussed recently.
But if you want to drive up to the north-eastern-most point in russia, you will have some difficulties crossing the rivers and the taiga. Take care that you don't bog down :-) Winter would be better, but a lot colder. No streets up to the bering strait :-)
So, where do you intend to go? Magadan, Kamtshatka? Vladivostok? Maybe we can give you some better information if you know more or less where you will end up in the russian far-east!
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Thank you very much for your answear, it is much appriciated.
Unfortunately I am going by 4wd car. Sending that by plane is not possible.
I am thinking about go seing the most north-eastern part of asia, så a ferry from Provideniya, wich I think is the biggest city up there, whould have been pefect. But I suppose Kamchatka could do as well. But there is no ferrys from there either?
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Your best entry points to the russian far east are for 4wd shipped in a 20' container...
1 Vladivostock (easy)
2 Vanino (bad road to Khabarovsk)
3 Magadan (very bad roads via yakutsk to skovorodino)
These locations are connected with the rest of russia by 'roads'. Any other entry points would require completely offroad travelling and require much more time and effort. Haven't got my road atlas to check the location you mention, but I remember the road atlas only showing roads at a few locations - none connected with each other - radiating away from ports on the coast.
Will look at the atlas tonight and comment.
Les
[This message has been edited by 4wheels (edited 14 July 2005).]
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Offroading isn't really a big problem, it is part of why I want to go through Siberia and Alaska. But I guess a trip through siberia would be good enough. I was just studying my maps, and thinked about different routes.
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How do you plan to get to 'siberia'? Drive?
Moscow - Vladivostock possible in 3 weeks nonstop driving onroad - my estimates.
Only other option is to get a 20' container - probably USD 1,000 ish moscow - irkutsk (my guestimate partly based on freight quotations.
I am researching London - Vladivostock - London for 2007/8 onroad in 2wd car. In 3 weeks I am travelling London - Moscow - London
All planned and ready to go.
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I am planning a long journey, from sweden to poland, ukraine, over to Kazakhstan, Mongolia and up through siberia. I havn't thought about how to get home again. To bad China isn´t open, if it was I would like to go down there and in to India, and after that home via pakistan, Iran and turkey.
But all is just planning and dreaming this far. I have thought about going to africa to, and other routs through asia.
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Just looked at Provedeniya on the map. Are you joking?! Maybe in winter when everything is frozen. In summer everything swampy with rivers to cross. No roads to speak of. Magadan - Yakutsk - Skovorodino is bad enough - late summer / autumn best as river levels much lower.
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No roads at all? Not even bad roads? How do the locals do, are they just going by boat or what?
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I'd say they just stay where they are...
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Boring people then
Well, I guess a trip to south siberia will do just as well. Mongolia one way and siberia the other. Alaska have to wait until another year.
Thank you all anyway.
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Dear Birgersson
You NEED to buy a russian road atlas. Look at the scale on the Chukotka Oblast map. Then see how many roads there are - and the huge gaps between them. In Chukotka, the winter lasts 7-8 months. So if you build a road a few thousand km long, who is going to clear away the snow when there are no villages along the way? Yes there are population centres which exist for exploitation of natural resources eg gold, but mainly this place is EMPTY. Now all this might seem negative and I would never say it can't be done, so if you plan enough and take precautions, I think it could be done but only in winter.
Well, someone seems to have done it, but they used ZIL trucks! 3 of them.
http://www.sptimesrussia.com/archive...top/t_2104.htm
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Hi!
Okay okay, I understand now how remote everything is in Siberia. Sweden is empty, but there is worse places...
But still, it would be very interesting. The trip with the zil trucks is just as I would like it - a real expedition. Not just a common summer trip. But I guess I should begin from bottom with a 4wd car and stay to places were I could find at least bad roads. But later on, in the future, it isn't impossible I will do a big journy like the one with the zil trucks.
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bering strait
hi i'm glad that i'm not the only one who is trying to find out how to get a 4x4 across the strait as i'm planning to drive from uk through russia i'm only in the first stages of planning at moment and would appreciate any advice you could give me thanx
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[quote=Birgersson;98144]Offroading isn't really a big problem, it is part of why I want to go through Siberia and Alaska.
Offroading IS a big problem and is in fact impossible in anything without tracks in Alaska and northern Siberia. There is absolutely no way to get a vehicle from Provideniya to Alaska except heavy-lift helicopter. And there are no roads from the Seward Peninsula to the road grid.
Alaska Airlines used to have flights from Anchorage to Magadan and Khabarovsk in 727s that would accomodate a bike but not a 4 wheeled vehicle, I don't know if they still do.
The only reasonable shipping option for a car/truck is Vladivostok-West Coast USA or Canada.
I speak from experience re "offroading" in the North. I've lived in Alaska for 29 years with 4X4s the whole time. If you go "offroad" (as opposed to "bad roads") you get terminally stuck in meters, not km.
I checked Alaska's website, they no longer fly to Russia. Dalavia a Russian carrier is doing it once a week this summer.
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