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Question...A Varadero xl1000v to the "Stans"...
I'm start gathering some infos for an adventure trip in the "Stans"...
The major plan is Greece.....Turkey.....Georgia.....Azerbaijan then boat to Turkmenistan......Uzbekistan.....Tajikistan.....Ky rgistan.....kazakstan boat to Azerbaijan.....Armenia.....Turkey....Greece.
As the title said, is a trip to the stans possible with a full loaded Varadero xl1000v??
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I would like to hear the opinion of people that have travelled in the "Stans"...
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I would like to hear the opinion of people that have travelled in the "Stans"...
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It depends what are you going to do with this fully loaded Varadero. If you are going to travel on main roads, like M41 for example, you can ride even on Electra Glide. Varadero is a good bike for such a trip. But if you want to make a shortcats, for example through Bartang Valley I would advice make another choice.
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Thank you,M41 its ok for me!This is one of the road that i was worried if varadero can passing througth..
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Sambor...
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It depends what are you going to do with this fully loaded Varadero. If you are going to travel on main roads, like M41 for example, you can ride even on Electra Glide. Varadero is a good bike for such a trip. But if you want to make a shortcats, for example through Bartang Valley I would advice make another choice.
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Just got the book of Robert Wicks of adventure motorcycle routes and I read your infos about Central Asia....!![Thumbup1](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/thumbup1.gif)
I hope if i need something (info or a question) i can send you a message!
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Hi there,
i've rode the 'Stans on 2010 with my "ultralight" "nicehandling" and "superperforming" Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide.
M41 itsn't properly an "healty walk" for bike like that, expecially along the Obigarm-Khalaikhum section in Tajikstan. I never wouldn't reccomend to ride it on a Harley Electra... but, if you're an atheist you can get enough time to get blasphemy while you riding along that route...
Get more serious; M41 it is absolutely doable on a Varadero, as i did it on a Harley...
Worst section is, as above said, from Obigarm to Khalaikhum. no tarmac at all, rare traffic in case you need help, stones, sand, steepy stints and, in case of rain, a lot of funny mud.
From Khalaikhum to Khorog river Pyandhz could be a mess in case of flash flood: road can get suddennly submerged by waters, and you get stuck in between, as it was happened to me...
Anyway, you can easily do it: you ride a good bike able enough to face the Pamir and the whole m41 wich it absolutely worth a ride.
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Hi there,
i've rode the 'Stans on 2010 with my "ultralight" "nicehandling" and "superperforming" Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide.
M41 itsn't properly an "healty walk" for bike like that, expecially along the Obigarm-Khalaikhum section in Tajikstan. I never wouldn't reccomend to ride it on a Harley Electra... but, if you're an atheist you can get enough time to get blasphemy while you riding along that route...
Get more serious; M41 it is absolutely doable on a Varadero, as i did it on a Harley...
Worst section is, as above said, from Obigarm to Khalaikhum. no tarmac at all, rare traffic in case you need help, stones, sand, steepy stints and, in case of rain, a lot of funny mud.
From Khalaikhum to Khorog river Pyandhz could be a mess in case of flash flood: road can get suddennly submerged by waters, and you get stuck in between, as it was happened to me...
Anyway, you can easily do it: you ride a good bike able enough to face the Pamir and the whole m41 wich it absolutely worth a ride.
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dnicoletti, your opinion is really helpful!!
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I wanted to suggest to you to read this website (Heidi & Bernd Kleine's) ...
... however, it is all in German ![Sad](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/sad.gif) : welt-tour.com - Reisetagebuch Panamericana.
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eeekk the M41 on an ElectraGlide those big washboards in the high parts and no man's land between the Tadj and Kygr border posts would be interesting.
But yes the Varadero wouldn't be an issue - I did it 2 up on 950. I would consider some semi off road tires.
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You will have more fun with a light load rather than a full load. Reduced weight = less work, less chance of a fall, less effort in picking the bike up.
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I was on Pamir Highway many times, more than 10. It is doable on each bike. Of course it is better to have light one. Obigarm? I would rather recommend southern route - through Kulab. More scenic.
Yes sometimes there is landslide, sometimes high water and you have to wait. No man's land section is different each year. I was stuck there by water, mud, snow. Asia, you have to be patient
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I wanted to suggest to you to read this website (Heidi & Bernd Kleine's) ...
... however, it is all in German ![Sad](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/sad.gif) : welt-tour.com - Reisetagebuch Panamericana.
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I think i get the main idea....
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But yes the Varadero wouldn't be an issue - I did it 2 up on 950. I would consider some semi off road tires.
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Anything is possible. ![Innocent](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/innocent.gif)
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Money...not much...!
Time ...Now with the Greek crisis i will be with out of job so i'll have a lot in the future!!
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I was on Pamir Highway many times, more than 10. It is doable on each bike. Of course it is better to have light one. Obigarm? I would rather recommend southern route - through Kulab. More scenic.
Yes sometimes there is landslide, sometimes high water and you have to wait. No man's land section is different each year. I was stuck there by water, mud, snow. Asia, you have to be patient ![Wink](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Sambor....You will be my mentor to Pamir highway!
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Sambor....You will be my mentor to Pamir highway
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I don't think you need a mentor. I will be in Central Asia as always. Let me know when are you going to ride. Maybe we will meet.
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eeekk the M41 on an ElectraGlide those big washboards in the high parts and no man's land between the Tadj and Kygr border posts would be interesting.
But yes the Varadero wouldn't be an issue - I did it 2 up on 950. I would consider some semi off road tires.
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"Washboards" are always useful, at every latitude...
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Thank you,M41 its ok for me!This is one of the road that i was worried if varadero can passing througth..
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Varadero 1000cc for the win.
Ultra comfortable, and a real long distance mile muncher.
The Pamir,,,M41, The Vara will eat it for breakfast
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