Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > North Africa
North Africa Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Trans Sahara Routes.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 28 Jun 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 275
Egypt, Sudan, Etipia, Erytrea

Hi folks
I,m thinking about next year trip to Egypt and other countries with my Defender by ferry from Venice
My questions are:
1. Can I buy Egypt visa in Alexsandria?
2. Is it possible to drive to Abu Simbel and then ferry to Wadi Halfa or only ferry from Aswan?
3. Is the Sudan-Etipia border open?
4. Is the Etiopia-Erytrea border open?
5. Is the Erytrea-Sudan border open?
6. Can I [go] back from Sudan to Egypt by Red See coast and pass border somwhere there?

It is first general questions.

Thanks for answers
Regards
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl

Last edited by Chris Scott; 28 Jun 2010 at 19:15. Reason: added missing word
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28 Jun 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 114
Am currently in Egypt after coming from Wadi halfa

1.I bought my visa in Khartoum only to find i could have bought it on the Wadi aswan ferry for 15 us
2. You must take the ferry from Aswan to Wadi halfa (mondays once a week)
3.Yes
4. Dont know think you have to fly in
5. No idea
6.Don t understand the question...

good luck
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 28 Jun 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: East Sussex UK
Posts: 119
Re The visa in Alex, I would think thats no problem at the port, (I spent a long time at the port last oct trying to clear my car from a container, however I flew in on that trip & got the visa at the airport.

The previous year I crossed from Libya at Sollum & again got my visa at the border crossing, which is how I think it will work in Alex.

I am also planning on using the new ferry from Venice, do you kinw of anyone who has done this yet (& suffered the egyptian beauracracy on entry??)

I have friend in Cairo who is going to try to find out some more inf on the entry procedures from the new ferry.

Sorry, I cant offer any exact replies to your other questions

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28 Jun 2010
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London
Posts: 2
Venice-Alexandria ferry

Hi there!

We took the ferry last week and spent about 2 hours and E£1,100 for customs duty, Carney stamping and issuing of Egyptian driving license and number plates. We got our Visa when the boat docked (took about 15 minutes and cost €15).

The ferry is very clean with helpful staff.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 29 Jun 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 275
Thank you for replies
I checked some info about the countries.
Situation between Etiopia and Erytrea is unstabile and travel in border region can be unsafe.
tnt go east in my last question I asked about possibility of return from Sudan not by ferry Wadi Halfa-Aswan but somewhere on the Red See coast.
I don't know is there any border crossing.
Bartosz
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 30 Jun 2010
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
Quote:
Originally Posted by mogmayhem View Post
Hi there!

We took the ferry last week and spent about 2 hours and E£1,100 for customs duty, Carney stamping and issuing of Egyptian driving license and number plates. We got our Visa when the boat docked (took about 15 minutes and cost €15).

The ferry is very clean with helpful staff.
Customs duty of £1,100 ?? What for ?? im just about to book the ferry and that terrified me. Especially as you have a carnet.

Is that Egytian Pounds ???
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 30 Jun 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: East Sussex UK
Posts: 119
Yes, he said in his post E£ (egyptian pounds) thats about £130 GBP which isnt bad at all, in fact very good for Egypt, and the real bonus is the 2 hrs for clearance!!!!!

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30 Jun 2010
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,673
I've just booked it ( along with 3 friends).

412 Euros in total for me and the bike.


We all had to book seperatly as you can only book one vehicle per booking. Rediculous !!!

We now need to contact the firm (who only seem to speak Italian), to try and tell them that we all want to share a cabin.

Not fun !

I'll blog the experience with photos in early October.
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1 Jul 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Scotland
Posts: 775
Quote:
Originally Posted by mogmayhem View Post
Hi there!

We took the ferry last week and spent about 2 hours ...
What??? No identity parade before the head of military intelligence at the port? No compulsory purchase of fire extinguishers? No need to bribe petty officials to make them handle your papers after one o'clock?

Incredible Egypt!
__________________
----------------
Roman (UK)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2 Jul 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 275
Hi
Once again question:
Is there any egypt-sudan border crossing on the Red See area?
I want to go to Sudan by Aswan-Wadi Halfa but return another way.
I asked about it in Egypt embassy in Poland and wait for answer.

Bartosz
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 2 Jul 2010
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,932
Is there any egypt-sudan border crossing on the Red See area?

No, or not for tourists.
They say Wadi Halfa Aswan will be a land border in a year or two.

Ch
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 4 Jul 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 275
Thanks Chris
It looks we have to back from Sudan the same way. That's a pity.

Bartosz
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 6 Jul 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Poland
Posts: 275
I got from Egypt Embassy in Poland info about egypt-sudan border crossing in Halaip. This is in the Halapi Triangel on the Red See coast. I asked once again is it border crossing for all nations.
As Chris said I rather don't belive is it possible for us cross border there.
Bartosz
__________________
Bartosz
www.wyprawy4x4.com.pl
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 22 Jul 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 403
There is indeed a road crossing at Hala'ib, but that is open only for the nationals (and vehicles) of the two countries, and even for them with restrictons. The entire Hala'ib triangle is closed for foreigners (it is a 'grey' area, it is administered by Egypt but legally on Sudanese territory, according to a hundred year old Anglo-Egyptian treaty that neither Egypt nor Sudan recognises, but still...), you need special military and police permits to enter there. There is no formal border post only police and 'security' checkpoints, because if there were, that would be an implicit recognition of the border.

Welcome to Africa of the 21st century...

Last edited by andrasz; 23 Jul 2010 at 11:07.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Carnet from Sudan to Egypt sfbowen North Africa 2 20 May 2003 22:57
Carnet from Sudan to Egypt sfbowen North Africa 1 11 May 2003 01:17
Egypt To Sudan uwe97688 North Africa 0 10 Mar 2003 01:27
Egypt to Sudan via Halaib joostvannoorden North Africa 6 16 Nov 2002 15:19
Jordan Egypt Sudan Nancy and A North Africa 2 24 Jan 2002 23:56

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27 2025
Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
CanWest: July 10-13 2025
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21 2025
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:57.