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Old 16 Aug 2014
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I recently came home from hitchhiking through Europe and I felt like I didn't really see that much because most of the time I was hitchhiking on highways.
I'm saving up some $ for a moped, because I don't have money for a motorcycle nor the license. A moped license in Denmark is 1/20th of a motorcycle one, so yeah. Now, because it's a moped I can't be driving on the highways and it won't have a license plate on it - how would I go about travelling the borders?
In Denmark (where I'm from) Mopeds just drive on the cycle path and I'm wondering how it is in the rest of EU.

Thanks a bunch for reading, and if you're unsure of what I mean, I'll be happy to answer any misunderstandings.

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Old 16 Aug 2014
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I forgot to say that it's a Derbi Senda S/M that I'm contemplating purchasing.
It doesn't go very far, about 12km/litre - any reccomendations?
I don't want the usual "moped-look" but something along the dirtbike/motorcycle look.
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My understanding of EU law is that if it is legal in country of origin it is legal in all EU countries although you might have to argue that point with the local police if they disagree. You will have to look up local laws for each country, I know it is legal for mopeds to travel on cycle paths in the Netherlands but not in the UK.
A moped sounds like a good way see Europe at a steady pace, have a good trip and welcome to the HUBB.
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My understanding of EU law is that if it is legal in country of origin it is legal in all EU countries.
A moped sounds like a good way see Europe at a steady pace, have a good trip and welcome to the HUBB.
Yeah, that's what I've heard too, like you can get a motorcycle license @ age 16 in most other EU countries but you have to be 18 in Denmark.
But if you go to, let's say Germany and take the license there and bring it back to denmark (@ age 16) it's completely legal.
But I've also heard that in some countries you can drive the mopeds on the same roads that the car uses - like Germany.

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That 12km per litre would bother me, my Enfield does 32 KM litre. It might be cheaper to get a motorcycle licence then ride on a little c50 or something similar. 2,000 miles at 12Km per litre will cost about 400 euros for fuel, more if two stroke. at 32 km litre it would cost about 150 euros. That is a 250 Euro saving on your first trip, plus you will only have to stop one third of the times to re fuel. weigh this against the cost of a licence.. I have no idea of the cost of a Danish licence so not sure if this helps.
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I have no idea of the cost of a Danish licence so not sure if this helps.
About €1300 + the cost of a motorcycle, which naturally is a bit more expensive than an moped.
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A 4 stroke moped such as a Honda would be better, I know it is not a moped but my Honda C70 did 50 km/litre which should give you some idea what to expect.
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Good plan!
I don't know about the rules in europe,sorry.

But a 4 stroke will be beter on the budget.
I know that nowerdays 50cc mopeds with gearing are mostly (dirtbike look)
2 strokes .Mabey a old honda 4 stroke moped puting dirtbike handlebars on it can be an idea.Or Mabey a DAX, monkeybike??


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Good plan!
A 4 stroke will be beter on the budget.
Thanks!
Yeah, a 4 stroke would indeed be a lot better on my budget, but I can't seem to find any good looking bikes which are 4 strokes.
The only one I found was a Yamasaki YM50-8B, which is VERY cheap for a new bike. About €1340 and it goes 50km/l and has can carry 13l.
That's 650km on 1 tank.

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Well they look fairly smart although that says nothing about the quality, if it is from a dealer with good spares back up they might be a good buy but don't buy from the internet with no spares or service back up. A better buy might be a used bike from a Japanese brand, although few of them are made there any more their quality is still pretty good.
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Can anybody say something about the "Yamasaki"?

Looks like a copy of a honda engine.There are heaps of different brands that are using them.Ask the dealer about spares or what type of engine it is.
I know there are millions of users of chineese bikes ,some are good and cheap.
Have a look at the bike and check it out yourself.
In your case this might be a good option, knowing that almost al the others are 2 stroke.

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The frame and plastics Look like the suzuki gs 125!
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I guess I will call tomorrow.
Many thanks for the help, and yeah, you're right about the comparisement!
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I kind of thought about a Rieju RS2 Matrix too..
Those things are technically mopeds, they look hella rad and can go as much as 120km/hr if tuned properly. Thoughts?
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