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Karakoram HW Oct/Nov 2016 (Kyrgystan-China-Pakistan)
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My boyfriend and I are planning to cross Kyrgystan-China-Pakistan via Karakoram in late Oct or early Nov 2016. I don't know if anyone would be interested in teaming up to share the costs? We are already in touch with a tour operator through China (4 days) but have not made any fixed agreements yet. We are by Volkswagen van.
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Hi everyone
My boyfriend and I are planning to cross Kyrgystan-China-Pakistan via Karakoram in late Oct or early Nov 2016. I don't know if anyone would be interested in teaming up to share the costs? We are already in touch with a tour operator through China (4 days) but have not made any fixed agreements yet. We are by Volkswagen van.
Best regards, Mia
Hi Mia!

I´m a German Biker travelling alone who plans to do the same route at the same time. I´d really be looking forward to be able to join you in order to share the costs (because a motorcycle-driver would otherwise have to pay for an extra vehicle for the obligatory statal watchdog in China, which isn´t cheap). And, last but not least, a little company is always nice on the road...
I´ll reliably be starting my trip in mid-August in Germany via Bosporus, Turkey, Aserbaijan, Armenia, Iran, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to Kyrgyzstan, and, after crossing China, will be heading forward to Delhi/India, where I want to deposit my bike for some months to continue my tour via Singapore to Australia in spring 2017. Where will you be coming from/going to? Where are you from?
I´d be happy about a soon answer to be able plan more concrete. My email adress is

teftrip@gmx.de

Apart from sharing the costs, who will care for the organization of the Cina-crossing (you mentioned that you´re already in contact with a tour-operator - did you get any response yet)?

Looking forward to hear from you, TEF (Klaus-Stefan Stiefelhagen, Ulm, Germany)
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Hi Mia, Hi TEF,

I am looking at a very similar route, looking for people to ride with, but planning to be on KKH by late August so a bit in front of you. Thought I'd say hi now anyhow, just in case I'm delayed!

Best,
Len
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Hi Mia!

I´m a German Biker travelling alone who plans to do the same route at the same time. I´d really be looking forward to be able to join you in order to share the costs (because a motorcycle-driver would otherwise have to pay for an extra vehicle for the obligatory statal watchdog in China, which isn´t cheap). And, last but not least, a little company is always nice on the road...
I´ll reliably be starting my trip in mid-August in Germany via Bosporus, Turkey, Aserbaijan, Armenia, Iran, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to Kyrgyzstan, and, after crossing China, will be heading forward to Delhi/India, where I want to deposit my bike for some months to continue my tour via Singapore to Australia in spring 2017. Where will you be coming from/going to? Where are you from?
I´d be happy about a soon answer to be able plan more concrete. My email adress is

teftrip@gmx.de

Apart from sharing the costs, who will care for the organization of the Cina-crossing (you mentioned that you´re already in contact with a tour-operator - did you get any response yet)?

Looking forward to hear from you, TEF (Klaus-Stefan Stiefelhagen, Ulm, Germany)
Hi Klaus-Stefan

Great to hear from you :-)

My Belgian boyfriend and I (Danish) are planning to leave from Copenhagen, Denmark, early August and go down Eastern Europe - Turkey - Iran - Turkmenistan (transit visa hopefully possible) - Uzbekistan - Kyrgystan - China (corner) - Pakistan - India and then from there on figure out our further proceedings :-)

We would definitely be up for teaming up together through China (and maybe meet up earlier on route for a travel chat). I have been in contact with Kashgar New Land International Travel Service 4Days Pakistan-China-Kyrgyzstan self-driving tour and they have send me a quote on the trip. I will e-mail the company for a new price calculation based on three people (or more if more will join us). In general, I will contact you on your e-mail and we can talk about the details there :-)

As for the dates of crossing, we are at the moment awaiting some responses from the Pakistan embassy - we would like to cross mid-November, but since the Pakistan visa can only be issued us here in Copenhagen and it is only valid for entry (unless we can make other agreements with the embassy) for three months, we might need to cross earlier (end-Oct). How does that fit into your schedule?

Again, good to hear from you!
Mia
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Hi Mia, Hi TEF,

I am looking at a very similar route, looking for people to ride with, but planning to be on KKH by late August so a bit in front of you. Thought I'd say hi now anyhow, just in case I'm delayed!

Best,
Len
Hi Len,

Good to hear from you too :-) Let us know if you change your schedule :-)

Mia
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Hi Mia!

I´m a German Biker travelling alone who plans to do the same route at the same time. I´d really be looking forward to be able to join you in order to share the costs (because a motorcycle-driver would otherwise have to pay for an extra vehicle for the obligatory statal watchdog in China, which isn´t cheap). And, last but not least, a little company is always nice on the road...
I´ll reliably be starting my trip in mid-August in Germany via Bosporus, Turkey, Aserbaijan, Armenia, Iran, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to Kyrgyzstan, and, after crossing China, will be heading forward to Delhi/India, where I want to deposit my bike for some months to continue my tour via Singapore to Australia in spring 2017. Where will you be coming from/going to? Where are you from?
I´d be happy about a soon answer to be able plan more concrete. My email adress is

teftrip@gmx.de

Apart from sharing the costs, who will care for the organization of the Cina-crossing (you mentioned that you´re already in contact with a tour-operator - did you get any response yet)?

Looking forward to hear from you, TEF (Klaus-Stefan Stiefelhagen, Ulm, Germany)
Hi again TEF :-)
Just a small update. I've now been in contact with the tour operator again and got a new quote including you if you'd join us. It does indeed seem like a pretty good deal to team up ;-) Let me know if you want me to send you the prices/quote.
Mia
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Hi, Joe from NZ here. I'm hoping to do this trip around this time and join up with other riders, I've been in contact with some other groups here but am thinking September or later would probably suit me better.


Have you made any progress on dates/number of people interested?


thanks Joe
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Hi, Joe from NZ here. I'm hoping to do this trip around this time and join up with other riders, I've been in contact with some other groups here but am thinking September or later would probably suit me better.


Have you made any progress on dates/number of people interested?


thanks Joe
Hi Joe,

You'd be very welcome to join us. We are still just my boyfriend and I in our van. TEF who at one point looked to also join us has changed his travel plans.
Our plan is to cross China from Kyrgyzstan to Pakistan in the end of October or in the beginning of November (15th of Nov would be the latest). At the moment, the specific dates depend on how we can arrange our visa for Pakistan.
When would you plan on crossing?
Best regards,
Mia
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Hello,

how much does it costs to cross China?I will go in September from Turkey to India on a motorbike.

Regards

Mike
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Hi Mia,


The plan for me is to re-join my motorbike in Germany at the beginning of June and explore my way across to the Chinese border over a period of about 3 months or so. I think late September or possibly October would work best for me....I usually tend to do a fair bit of meandering and often find myself needing more time!


I'm thinking that November would probably be a bit too late than I would prefer, would be concerned about early snow and also my onward travel but not fixed on this?


I'm about to look into a Pakistani visa also. Also, I may have another person joining me so that would help further with costs. I'd be interested to see your quote, Is the price for a fixed amount of people/vehicles??


thanks Joe
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Hi guys,

I am also planning my way to India from Germany, but with a 4WD. I am going to leave Kyrgyzstan in the last week of September. There are two option: Pakistan and KKH or Nepal via Rasuwaghadi – Goh (Kerung / Kyirong). If anyone is interested in this dates dont hesitate contacting me. I am traveling with 2 friends and I could host the guide.

Cheers, Mathias
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Hi everybody,

I am a solo rider planning to leave from Prague in the middle of July and slowly making my way through southern Europe towards Turkey and Iran. Then I am thinking about three possible ways how to get to India (need to be there late Oct). The first one is through China and Pakistan (KKH); second is through South Pakistan straight to India (recently few riders made this route) and the third one is to take ferry from south Iran to Dubai and then fly to Mumbai.

I would be great to join any of you for some part of the journey.

Cheers, Radim
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Hello,

how much does it costs to cross China?I will go in September from Turkey to India on a motorbike.

Regards

Mike
Hi Mike

It depends a lot whether you will be going on your own or with others (since a significant part of the fee can be split) and whether or not someone has a car that the Chinese guide can have a seat in or not (if only motorbikes you will probably need to pay an additional guide car fee).

The latest quote we got was for two people in a van (my boyfriend and I with space for the Chinese guide) + one motorbike. In this case the motorbike driver will pay 1277 USD.

Best regards,
Mia
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Hi Mia,


The plan for me is to re-join my motorbike in Germany at the beginning of June and explore my way across to the Chinese border over a period of about 3 months or so. I think late September or possibly October would work best for me....I usually tend to do a fair bit of meandering and often find myself needing more time!


I'm thinking that November would probably be a bit too late than I would prefer, would be concerned about early snow and also my onward travel but not fixed on this?


I'm about to look into a Pakistani visa also. Also, I may have another person joining me so that would help further with costs. I'd be interested to see your quote, Is the price for a fixed amount of people/vehicles??


thanks Joe
Hi Joe,

The latest quote we got was for two people in a van (my boyfriend and I with space for the Chinese guide) + one motorbike. In this case the motorbike driver will pay 1277 USD. This price would probably go down if more people would join.

If you send me your e-mail address I can send you an attachment of the quote.

Best regards,
Mia
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Hi everybody,

I am a solo rider planning to leave from Prague in the middle of July and slowly making my way through southern Europe towards Turkey and Iran. Then I am thinking about three possible ways how to get to India (need to be there late Oct). The first one is through China and Pakistan (KKH); second is through South Pakistan straight to India (recently few riders made this route) and the third one is to take ferry from south Iran to Dubai and then fly to Mumbai.

I would be great to join any of you for some part of the journey.

Cheers, Radim
Hi Radim,

You'd be welcome to join us if you opt for KKH and our dates would match :-)

Mia
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