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Looks like there is a list on Wikipedia's Carnet de Passage page. If it is out of date, you can always update it.
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Thanks for that link, but it doesn't help anybody: it list countries accepting the carnet, not those *requiring* it, which is what we really need to know. I'll look into modifying the page if and when I find the time.
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Thanks Beddhest. I figured as much. I was interested in knowing which countries *required* Carnets too and figured if I linked it maybe someone, like you , might update it with the information.
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I updated the information myself based on the information in this forum as best as I could read it. If anyone here has any more information, please add it. It could be a great resource for everyone.
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Thanks very much for doing that. I have already made two changes:

Removed Turkey and added a comment to Oz (not required, but strongly recommended.

Excellent stuff! I was going to set up a carnet page myself, but this is much better.

Grant & Susan: how about linking to this from your carnet page?
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Singapore**Yes**

Malaysia (BEWARE). They did not require a Carnet crossing in from Malaysia. When I tried to re-export my Land Rover by Sea, they required the Carnet, which by that time had expired. Cost me a load of money, the AA in Basingstoke where very unco-operative, and it was a real pain in the arse......
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I don't understand this. Are you saying you imported the car without having the carnet stamped? In that case demanding it on export makes no sense whatsoever and I would simply claim not having one. What kind of documentation was used for the import?
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According to a website of Syrian Ministry of Tourism:
2- Car owners permanently residing abroad, and coming to Syria to stay for a short time, are allowed to bring in their own, or rented cars which are properly registered in the country of expatriation in conformity with a legal authorization allowing the use and driving cars outside the country of registration according to the following customs duties:
> Duties of (US $ 40 or equivalent) levied on cars in accordance with a temporary entry card for a period of 15 days and (US $ 30 or equivalent) in return for the obligatory insurance of the car to be paid to the Syrian Insurance Company.

This is taken from http://www.syriatourism.org/index.ph...55&newlang=eng
I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that the above applies to motorcycles as well (why shouldn't it?) for a total of about 50USD rather than 70USD in case of cars.

I think this information would be useful for those that cross non-CDP countries except for Syria. That would be much less hassle and probably cheaper to pay 50USD than to get a CDP.
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I have changed the wording in the section "Countries where a CPD is accepted" "Africa" from

"Countries where the CPD is used include"
To
"Countries where the CPD may be used include"

I think that gives a better idea of the intention?

--- On a side note. It would be nice to include what the alternatives are ... but may overload the page with detail.

Edit - there is a conflict - South Africa is listed as both requireing and optional for a carnet?

[This message has been edited by Frank Warner (edited 01 February 2006).]
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I don't think there is a conflict as such, because the first list includes all countries that accept the carnet. Even most European countries are in there, even though they don't require it and nobody actually uses it. Apparently, in some instances (commercial) vehicles may HAVE to use it, where tourists don't. There is a list of countries using the carnet system on the AIT site, but for us tourists it's utterly useless.

To my way of thinking the only usefull list includes countries either requiring the carnet or where it is very usefull to use it, like Oz, because it simplifies the process of temporarily importing immensely.
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I went through Syria this summer and did not need a carnet. Just a visa and motorcycle title.
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Quote:
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I don't think there is a conflict as such, because the first list includes all countries that accept the carnet.
Umm - to my way of thinking
the first list is of countries where having a carnet is optional.
the second list is of countries where having a carnet is absolutely required.

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To my way of thinking the only usefull list includes countries either requiring the carnet or where it is very usefull to use it, like Oz, because it simplifies the process of temporarily importing immensely.
I disagree on the inclusion of where it is 'usefull'. The usefullness is a subjective thing, one person says yes another no. Better to have the details of the avalible options in the first list?

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I know what you mean, Frank. Basically, I agree with you, but it's too complicated to include the info in a list. Perhaps a star and a footnote with a link to the relevant govt. web site? I'm thinking of Oz, where it is apparently possible to import a bike without carnet, but you need to obtain clearance before landing it.

Anyway, just my 2 c worth, I let somebody else do the editing.
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update

See this page for a list of countries that REQUIRE a carnet

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tri...t-of-countries

and the thread from there with more up-to-date info.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-douanes-37276
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