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Valdis 15 Feb 2016 18:56

Bike wanted: September 2016 New Zealand
 
We are arriving in NZ at the beginning of September and are willing to travel across both islands for three months on a motorcycle. So maybe someone is planning to finish their trip at around the same time we are arriving and is willing to sell their bike..? Preferably would be a dual sport with some sort of luggage. We are planing 2-up riding for most of the time but not long distance as we should have enough time not to hurry anywhere so not really in a need for a big liter bike. Other (not dual sport) bikes would also be considered, but would really love something that could go on dirt roads as I have heard there are many "have to ride" ones out there. We are not at the high end of the budget also so that is one more reason to look more in a single cylinder DR, XT, KLR sort of direction. :mchappy:

I also have a KTM 950 ADV with hard luggage in Europe, Latvia so some sort of swapping/selling is also possible.

Nigel Marx 16 Feb 2016 05:49

That's a good time to buy in NZ as it's still colder/winter here and the market will be lower. If you buy here and sell three months later you'll hit the summer market so you may not lose much, if you buy carefully. The website to look at in NZ is Trademe.co.nz and I suggest you buy in the north and sell in the south at that time of the year. If you find a bike you like around christchurch (South Island, I know), I'd be happy to check it out for you.

Regards

Nigel in NZ

Valdis 16 Feb 2016 06:50

Thank you for the information. Still have some time but I checked the site and it looks promising to find something suitable. :)

I also have a question regarding WOF? What does it take to get it if the bike does not have it or if it ends during the trip? I kind of understand the REG thing and already checked the fares for that.

Another thing I saw that some bikes had something called LAM approved. What does that mean? :eek3:

Nigel Marx 17 Feb 2016 18:37

The WOF, as you probably know, is the standard safety inspection that is done on vehicles in NZ every 6 months on vehicles made before 2000 and every 12 months if it's made in 2000 or later. Every small town has a repair garage somewhere that will do it. In big cities there will be hundreds of places. Only the smallest repair garages are not licenced to do WOFs. In cities there are a number of specialised WOF places where you just arrive any time. Repair garages usually like you to book a time but if they are not busy, they will do it on the spot. Motorbikes usually take about 20-30 minutes including the paper work and cost about NZ$35. If the bike fails the inspection, you usually have 21 days to get the problem fixed and then the re-inspection is free if you take the bike back to the same place.
LAMS is short for Learner Approved Motorcycle. It's a bike that can be ridden by someone on a learners permit.
Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more questions.

Cheers

Nigel in NZ

Valdis 18 Feb 2016 14:12

Thank you Nigel for clearing that up for me. Some quality information! I have been advised to postpone my trip till October cause in September the weather could still be on the cold and wet side. It already felt too long to wait till September!

Regards

Snakeboy 26 Feb 2016 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Marx (Post 530292)
That's a good time to buy in NZ as it's still colder/winter here and the market will be lower. If you buy here and sell three months later you'll hit the summer market so you may not lose much, if you buy carefully. The website to look at in NZ is Trademe.co.nz and I suggest you buy in the north and sell in the south at that time of the year. If you find a bike you like around christchurch (South Island, I know), I'd be happy to check it out for you.

Regards

Nigel in NZ

The issue might have been up to discussion before - but can a foreigner legally buy and own a motorbike in New Zealand?

I consider doing this if possible and if not finding a decent and reasonably priced shipping option from Australia.

Valdis 26 Feb 2016 19:16

Hi,

Yes a foreigner can own a vehicle in NZ and it is one of the easyest countries to do so. I am also going to do that still so I can not give you a detailed view on paperwork but it is nothing complicated as far as I have read.

Regards,

Valdis

Nigel Marx 27 Feb 2016 07:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakeboy (Post 531713)
The issue might have been up to discussion before - but can a foreigner legally buy and own a motorbike in New Zealand?

I consider doing this if possible and if not finding a decent and reasonably priced shipping option from Australia.

Rest easy! Not every country makes it hard.

Anyone can own a vehicle in NZ as long as they can fulfill the following criteria:

1) Carry a driver's licence with the details in English. (If your own country's license doesn't include English, then obtain an International Driver's License from the issuing authority in your country).

2) Can give a valid New Zealand address for mail to be sent to. This mail will include speed camera and parking fines. Some people have been known to use a fictitious address to avoid these fines. This only works for a short time, until word gets out, especially to the customs and immigration people at the airports...... It's a bit embarrassing to have to explain to the family waiting at the airport at home why you aren't there with them and are calling from a NZ police cell.

3) Have NZ$9 in your pocket, when you arrive at the NZ Post Office/VTNZ Inspection Office/AA Office anywhere in the country, for the paperwork fee. If you have an NZ driver's license and credit card, you can do it online.

You don't need any registration paperwork for the vehicle. This means you could, in theory, register a car that you see in the street in your own name. Why would you? All that will come of it is that you will get the bills.

Why isn't everywhere this easy?

Cheers

Nigel in NZ

Snakeboy 29 Feb 2016 03:29

Sorry Valdis if I hijack your thread again....

Great information Nigel and thanks for the info provided. So if arrive NZ in a week or two and use a week or so to buy a bike and get it ready to ride and all paperwork done - then ride around NZ for approx 2 months and then it will be late may and probably not such a good time to sell a bike again?? And it could take a good while to sell it again - thats one concern I have if doing it now. How about that Nigel?

Nigel Marx 29 Feb 2016 14:33

Yes, that's all easily do-able. There's not a big difference in prices between the summer and winter market; maybe 20% but it could take a little longer to sell in May. Where are you thinking of buying and selling? Auckland is the big market but Christchurch tends to be a little cheaper. I'd be lining up a bike before you arrive via Trade Me Motors - Used cars, new cars, motorbikes, boats and more for sale on trademe.co.nz. Ebay is very seldom used in NZ. If you need someone with an account there to sort the auction, let me know. I can bid for you and then let you sort the payment details via PayPal.
As regards to which way to tour New Zealand, I'd say start in the South Island while it's still warmer and dry and then head north. If you're into riding the back country roads then you could spend the whole time in the south.

Cheers

Nigel in NZ

Snakeboy 13 Mar 2016 04:42

Yeah - that was really easy. I purchased a bike, got the rego transferred to me, purchased insurance - in less than than two hours. I arrived Wellington thursday 11 pm and by friday 3 pm the deal was done. May have melted some plastic along the way but who cares.....

DLyttle 28 Mar 2016 09:34

And no mandatory insurance
 
Your bike registration includes personal accident insurance for you and anyone you injure. But you should take at least third party insurance in case you cause an accident. This is not compulsory even though it should be. If you leave your bike in Nelson I can help you sell it. We make it very easy here.

Snakeboy 29 Mar 2016 03:57

Well - Valdis, I have a bike that will be for sale in mid/end of May. Its a Suzuki Dr650 - well equipped for travelling.

Its a 2013 modell, it had 10 k kms on the clock when I bought it and it will probably have around 20 k kms at the time its for sale. It got Happy Trail side panniers and pannier frame. I think theyre 27 liters each. And a big rear carrier plate. It easily carries a 90 liter dry bag. Comes with several straps.
It got a aluminium skid plate under the engine. It got big Barkbuster plastic and metal hand protectors. Its got a wind screen. And it got a GPS - Garmin Zumo 550. Its got an Acerbis 21 liter gas tank. It gives me a range of 450-500 kms. I have experienced a fuel consumption of between 23-24 kms pr liter fuel.

I will sell it with a camping chair, a NZ road atlas and a bike lock too :D

WOF is good until march 2017 but rego expires june this year.

Tyres and chain/sprockets will be a bit worn at the end of my use but I can replace if agreed about.

Its been a very good bike for the back roads and gravel roads of the south island and will hopefully be the same for the next owner.

Photos can be sent on mail.

Valdis 30 Mar 2016 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakeboy (Post 534311)
Well - Valdis, I have a bike that will be for sale in mid/end of May. Its a Suzuki Dr650 - well equipped for travelling.

Its a 2013 modell, it had 10 k kms on the clock when I bought it and it will probably have around 20 k kms at the time its for sale. It got Happy Trail side panniers and pannier frame. I think theyre 27 liters each. And a big rear carrier plate. It easily carries a 90 liter dry bag. Comes with several straps.
It got a aluminium skid plate under the engine. It got big Barkbuster plastic and metal hand protectors. Its got a wind screen. And it got a GPS - Garmin Zumo 550. Its got an Acerbis 21 liter gas tank. It gives me a range of 450-500 kms. I have experienced a fuel consumption of between 23-24 kms pr liter fuel.

I will sell it with a camping chair, a NZ road atlas and a bike lock too :D

WOF is good until march 2017 but rego expires june this year.

Tyres and chain/sprockets will be a bit worn at the end of my use but I can replace if agreed about.

Its been a very good bike for the back roads and gravel roads of the south island and will hopefully be the same for the next owner.

Photos can be sent on mail.

PM sent!

froston 10 Oct 2016 21:30

Hi Folks,
I arrive in christchurch in a few days and i am also looking for a bike. my preferred bike would be a japanese one cylinder enduro from 250cc to 600 as my bike at home is a xt600 and i know the engine a little bit.
i dont mind it being a lttle older since my budget is not too great. i am hoping to get a bike around 1500$ but i need it to have everything necessary for wof
feel free to send me an offer or contact me if you know something.
cheers
frosty

Snakeboy 12 Oct 2016 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by froston (Post 548942)
Hi Folks,
I arrive in christchurch in a few days and i am also looking for a bike. my preferred bike would be a japanese one cylinder enduro from 250cc to 600 as my bike at home is a xt600 and i know the engine a little bit.
i dont mind it being a lttle older since my budget is not too great. i am hoping to get a bike around 1500$ but i need it to have everything necessary for wof
feel free to send me an offer or contact me if you know something.
cheers
frosty

Trademe is the place to look for bikes in New Zealand....https://touch.trademe.co.nz/

Kiwi-videos 13 Oct 2016 03:22

Hello Froston
I take it that you have a tourist working visa??

I,d want too increase my budget for buying a motorcycle or you,d have to look at a road bike that might need new tires too be bought with your first pay.
The bigger motorcycle dealerships ( workshops )will want too milk you of your last dollar should you have a problem that you can not solve yourself.
(As everywhere).
You,d still do most of your Actual traveling on sealed roads and need to just take it more easy on the gravel.Unless your job is next to off road tracks or gravel roads going everywhere.

There might still be some time left on the Rego or the WOF that still leave you legal and spend your first pay bringing it up to standard.
A WOF ( warrant of Fitness ) means it was deemed safe at time of inspection only.

New Zealand is full of people with old off road bikes like your XT600 but they hold there value. Even when they have not been licensed for years and without lights etc.
Its so common for people to take their old off bike out on a trailer when they just find time.

As well as the Trade Me website you can buy ($3.00) the local "Buy Sell or Swap" free advertisement paper at the Corner convenience store or petrol station. Though they lack any photos or details.
Then there is the problem of getting out to see them, that can be time consuming , cost money and difficult without already having transport.

The trade Me website search engine has a buy now option if you can,t wait around that can give you a realistic price range.

If you are working I,d try not too rush buying something. But the need too ride might be flowing in your veins too much.

Good Luck

froston 13 Oct 2016 08:18

i am mainly watching bikes on trademe. i will try to not rush but yes, i want to hit the road asap. i have the opportunity to stay at a friends place where i can maybe do some work on the bike. if wof is not harder to get than tüv in germany i think chances are good that i get the bike registred. i can fix broken lights or clean a carb but i dont wanna ad a full electric system, that would just take too much time

Fern 20 Oct 2016 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi-videos (Post 549091)

The bigger motorcycle dealerships ( workshops )will want too milk you of your last dollar should you have a problem that you can not solve yourself.
(As everywhere).

As well as the Trade Me website you can buy ($3.00) the local "Buy Sell or Swap" free advertisement paper at the Corner convenience store or petrol station. Though they lack any photos or details.
Then there is the problem of getting out to see them, that can be time consuming , cost money and difficult without already having transport.


Good Luck

The bigger motorcycle dealershops will milk you, but they do not WANT to milk you. I worked in one, we never had a tourist walk through the door, and think, great, we'll have them for breakfast. We got them work done as cheap as we could. If you run into mechanical trouble on the road, don't go to a big stealership, ask around the biker community and help may come from better places.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/AdventureRidinginNZ/ is a good start..

Don't trust the local buy sell ads in the tourist towns, as they will have vehicles being sold by unscrupulous traders who prey on backpackers or backpackers who have abused cars/bikes and try and sell before the wof runs out.

froston 8 Nov 2016 06:50

took your advice and got a registred ktm lc4, since it had the best price/quality ratio. totally worth it! already had loads of fun especially in the area between dunedin and cromwell (where i am staying at the moment)
previous owner did a few dodgy repairs that i am going to fix these days but other than that the bike is just great

Insanely_Sane1 7 Dec 2016 23:56

Hey all...

I know this isn't quite what this post was made for, but it seems to be a very useful one lol!

Just wondering if any Kiwi's know whether it's possible to buy a bike from overseas? I used to live in NZ 8 years ago and am an NZ citizen now living in Aus (Born in Aus)... Looking to bring my boyfriend back and buy two bikes. I've found a DR650 that looks amazing on Trademe but it's auction closes on Dec 11th, while we don't arrive until 9th of January. I have friends who can pick the bike up for me, so that's not an issue... It's just the paper work sides of things I'm not sure of... Wondering if it could be done via email or if scan/copied signatures aren't allowed :helpsmilie:

Jaz

Fern 9 Dec 2016 00:02

Hi Jaz

I only noticed this post by chance,

You'll get a far better response by starting a new thread in the Aus/NZ section..

Good luck with your quest

Fern

Nigel Marx 9 Dec 2016 09:28

Hi Jaz. There's nothing stopping you buying the bike and as long as you've got somewhere to store it, just do the paperwork when you get here. There's nothing to getting it registered in your name. All you need is $9.50, a valid NZ address and a driver's licence that reads in English. The thing that says the bike is yours is the seller's receipt. The paperwork is only for where the registration bills/ speeding tickets/parking tickets go to. Get your friends to make sure there is a receipt saying you have paid for the bike in full, and that's the proof. Yes, it IS that simple.

If you're after another bike, I'm about to sell my F650GS. Let me know if you are interested or send me a PM.

Regards

Nigel in NZ (Nth Canterbury)


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