Originally Posted by Timo (Post 157711)

I just went in for a look at the new G series last weekend. ...

Originally Posted by Ian (Post 158026)

I've seen a couple of XChallenges and (I think) an XCountry on the road in the UK.

In my opinion, both would make a great travel bike, with a few suitable accessories.

Originally Posted by Timo (Post 157711)

I just went in for a look at the new G series last weekend. they didn't have the xmoto on display at my local Beemer boutique, but that's not a model I would consider (or fits into our purposes) in any case.

As is often the case, these bikes are different in person then on paper.

After I climbing aboard the xchallenge I looked down to see the some 6 inches of clearence under my feet - I don't think I would want to ride this bike with any amount of weight on it. At 168 cm in height (5 foot 6), I would basically have to get off at intersections to hold the bike up - not really a practical adventure tourer for anyone under 6'2"!

That leaves the Xcountry, which is being billed in the same catagory as Triumph's new 'scrambler' - a mostly urban fun bike that doesn't mind a bit of dirt road in it's diet. The first thing that struck me is how light the bike is, it definitely feels quit a bit lighter then the F650GS. The seat height is still high (32-33 inches) but easily manageable. I found the seating position and reach to the bars to be about perfect for me.

Obviously, BMW hasn't really set this bike up to serve our needs: The fuel range is ridiculous, the mud guard is to close to the front wheel, and the plastic 'bash plate' is a joke - really more of a beauty plate, there is no luggage rack, and the strength of the rear sub frame must be questioned (as always). However, I tend to think any bike is going to require modification to be a useful adventure tourer - so it goes without saying that parts will have to be swapped. I'm sure touratech is feaverishly working on these variously issues right now.

On the plus side BMW has reduced the vibration levels of this engine, given us truly phenomenal fuel economy, and actually produced a light, comfortable 650 single with modern suspension. so you really only need to add 2 more gallons of gas to get respectable distance from this machine. I'm sure that most of the inevitable flood of aftermarket bash plates, panniers, and various aluminum do hickies made for the xchallenge will also fit this bike.

In my view, this bike has some potential: sort of a DR400 with a bigger engine, better seating arrangement, and less vibration at hwy speeds (of course I can already hear people saying "but isn't that the DR 650?"). Probably the real question to ask is why someone would choose a G650Country over the existing F650GS - a very similar bike? I think this would have to come down the points above: lighter weight, less vibs, and better (stock) suspension.

All in all, I think this bike deserves a second look despite its somewhat vague marketing niche. I'd like to see some early rider reviews on this model and it's stable mates...

Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 158052)

Did you get any feedback from the owners, perchance?

Originally Posted by Timo (Post 158934)

Touratech has a tank in the works (available next spring?) similar to the one they designed for the HP1 and the F series. It will be expensive, but should address the most obvious lacking of the G/X models. This coupled with a better bash plate an a few other guards should put this bike on the map as a viable adventure tourer - the problem as always is the cost. I figure this will add at least $3000 dollars to the cost of this already expensive (overpriced???) model.