Best way to get fuel out of your tank (for the stove)?
 

Hi guys

I have a stove and plan to use it with the fuel of my bike. What's the best way to get the fuel out of the bike's tank?
I have two ways in my mind, which is better? Do you use other techniques?
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• get a simple small fuel tube and sucking with my mouth until it flows (yikes!)?
• buy a big injection and a fuel tube? (again more stuff to carry..)

I'm very curious how you folks do it.

Thanks

Wolfgang

I plumbed in a simple tap (purchased from a hydraulic hose supplier, £2)

Pete

If the bike is not fuel injected you can cut the fuel line and fit a "T" with a plastic motor mower fuel tap. Has worked faultlessly for ages for me.

I use a Coleman dual fuel stove

Glen

When I need fuel, I just close the tap, unplug the fuel line next to the fuel tap, fill up my bottle, replace the line and open the tap. Easy, quick, clean.

Oh, you mean you have one of those fancy Europeans 3-letters bikes? sorry, I ride an '84 Ténéré.. ;-)

Cheers.

I'm afraid....

.... yes.

:(

As you have on of those bikes, take a look at the BMUU Add On Site and they do a thingy that goes into the fuel line.

Overpriced but,,,,


I use a length of hose from an old Scottoiler that is long enough to be able to suck the fuel through without getting a mouthfull!. Good for getting fuel from cars if you were to runn out , oh and handy when you mistake 'Gasoily' for Petrol........ :innocent:

on my XXX 1150GS, all I did was lift the tank a bit, disconnect the quick release valve on the fuel line which released fuel when the end was pressed against the lip of the bottle. Easy.

I'm afraid this won't work that easy with the R1200GS ADV...

Sounds interesting. But the link only points to Touratech, do you have a clue how this thing is called?


*lol*

Aha, I see the problem - you bought the wrong bike!!

:laugh:

Grant March had the idea here http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...our-tank-20646

so I just ordered at eBay a cheap bulb siphon emergency pump. :thumbup1:


Thanks - Wolfgang

+1:thumbup1: , '97 XT600E

there must be a length of fuel line coming out of the tank you can put a T in? then an extension down to a tap

Just had an idea, you could make a siphon-bottle, it'd be simple to make, and save accidentally getting a mouthful of petrol.

The basic idea is to have a half way along your siphon tube. You suck the petrol out of your tank as usual, to start the siphoning and the petrol will flow into the bottle.

If you've got a separate fuel bottle for your stove, you could buy an extra stopper drill two small holes, poke the tubes through and glue with epoxy, or use a couple of nipples, or tubular threaded rod.

If you've got a fixed bottle, then either a tapered rubber bung, or cork, or just the top from a plastic bottle, particularly if you're buying bottled water to drink. Then you can just use any bottle you come across.

A quick look and search through the Touratech site throws these up :

Touratech UK Webshop

But this is the thing I was thinking about :

Touratech UK Webshop

I think you'd be better with a lenght of hose, it works for more than one application and isn't going to cost you £20+++ If it is long enough you can see the fuel coming along and nip the tube before it gets to your mouth, put the end of the tube in your fuel bottle, then make sure the end of the fuel (in the tube) is below the tank before un-nipping it - Hey Presto! the fuel flows into yuor bottle...... Simples.

I've been using my low tec set up for years.

A length of clear tube, about 2 feet, and a small syringe. I use this to syphon a litre at a time into a trangia fuel bottle. With the syringe connected to one end of the tube I pull the plunger out completely and this causes enough suction to start the syphoning of the fuel. Once you've finished make sure you wash and dry the syringe as the petrol will eat the plastic if you don't. I then put a bit of oil on the rubber seal before I store it and it's ready for the next time. It packs down to nothing and is easily stored on the bike and can be used to transfer fuel from bike to bike in an emergency ( with a suitable container).

The beauty of this system is all the parts are easily found in a DIY store or a pharmacy on route if you need to replace it.

I have used 2 pipes and a rag to syphon fuel with no spillage or taste.
You will need 2 pipes one fairly short with a bigger bore and one longer smaller bore, place longer pipe into tank below fuel level, place larger pipe just inside tank filler neck and seal the 2 in the filler by holding the rag over gaps that are left, blow in the short hose to put pressure in and fuel should flow from the longer smaller bore pipe into waiting receptical.
I have used this many times whilst at sea on long trips to refuel from jerry cans and it really does work well.

HI a simple way to get fuel fron your tank is your usual plastic tube 3 ft long put one end into tank as far as you can ,place your thumb firmly over the end sticking out of tank and draw the tube out swiftly about half way and down to the side of tank let your thumb off and fuel should flow ,may take a couple of goes to perfect but once you learn you wont go back to risking a petrol or diesel mouthwash again and you only need to carry this small tube ROB

As it happens I have just bought myself a Primus omni fuel stove. Also as well as the 0.6 litre bottle that came with it I got a spare 1 Litre bottle. Idea is it provides me with an extra 20 miles reserve range for the bike plus a reserve tank for the stove. My intention is to refill the bottles when I take on fuel for the bike. Don't know yet how this system will work out.

I use the same system, albeit mine is MSR, the neck of the fuel bottle is a little narrow when filling at the station, but I just fill it from the tank after use (for morning coffee, full english and scones) then head to the filling station.

It's only 20 miles, but it's better than walking it!

Same here. MSR stove, 2009 BMW R1200GS Adv. It used to be real easy with my '88 Tenere (3AJ) until I replaced that last November ;)

I like the idea with the lengthy tube with a tap, as I happen to still have a spare tap from my Libby chainoiler. I'll refuel the bottles every time I refuel the bike but give the Adventure's 33l tank it could take several days between two gas station stops. I actually considered taking a small funnel since the MSR neck is a bit narrow.

1 x Kupplung dicht

1 x Zapfen offen / dicht

I don't know, I've only seen them in the catalogue. You could try the 'contact us' button on the Touratech website and see what they come back with ?

I had two sets (not sure if it was TT) a few years ago.
When they are connected both parts are open (obviously) and when disconnected one is open and one is close.

Mine started to leak after a few weeks and I threw them away. Not sure if I had trusted this for a FI-bike that has a pressurized system. Does the petrol run freely through the pump?

I like the idea of the single pipe solution. I didn't think of that. Next time I'll try to get as much of the pipe below the fuel level and then pull it out with my thumb over it and put it into my fuel bottle. That's much simpler than my solution, thanks.:thumbup1:

Now I've not motorcycle toured, but have bicycle toured a fair bit and I think you maybe looking for a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. I just fill my MSR bottle up at petrol stations, in the Uk people moan about minimum amounts but they usually relent, abroad its never been a problem. When touring I use my small fuel bottle and it easily lasts two days cooking for 2 people, a big bottle no doubt will do 4 days, in this time I expect most motorbikers will have visited a petrol station or 2.

wow, 20 miles on a litre? thats 90mpg.
so there is still an enfield robin out there after all.........

You got the Enfield part right, but an Electra, not robin diesel :)
In fact it has averaged out at 95mpg ( having climbed up from 94 during the winter).

You have clearly underestimated a 33l fuel tank. Even with my Tenere's 24l capacity I managed to avoid gas stations for three to four days, averaging at 150km per day. You do the 33l math ;)

I bought a purpose made tube from Halfords for a few quid a couple of years ago.It consists of a piece of tube with a one way valve on one end,the valve is a simple ball bearing type,you put it into your tank and "jiggle" it up and down a few times and hey presto petrol.It is good if you are lying in your tent in the morning and you hear some one "jiggling"you no the coffee is on its way!:clap:

In which case you'll be fine!!

I might, but my wife usually likes to eat, too ;)
Should've mentioned that we travel two-up. I'll probably just pick up another fuel bottle and attach that to the panniers.

Put the open bottle under the carb and drain the float? Not the fastest but only needs a screwdriver.

I usually carry a clear small plastic tubing about 4 feet long to siphon gas out of the tank into the MSR bottle.

You're absolutely right and it's called..........wait for it......... a "JIGGLE SYPHON"! About a fiver off ebay

Anti Static Jiggle Fluid Diesel Fuel Siphon Syphon on eBay (end time 04-Aug-10 16:11:42 BST)

Jiggle syphon
 

OK, this is a bit obscure, but the jiggle pipe in the above post is very similar to a piece of kit used by environmental consultants to sample water from boreholes. The most common supplier is a company called 'waterra' (I dont work for them!)

A foot valve costs a couple quid and you can get rolls and rolls of tubing for pounds. If you know of anyone who works for the water industry or an environmental consultant, it wouldnt hurt to ask if they have a valve and some tubing going spare.

.....said it was a bit obscure!

I just use the good old tried and Tested Mk1
Tube and suck till you see it coming I have a Coleman multi fuel.

KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid

Try something like this?
Add a T joint to the fuel line and a on/off cock. Just make sure to close it securely before riding, or you may have gasoline leaking onto a hot engine...

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We used the MSR Dragonfly stove on our recent trip, the small fuel bottle fits under the seat on my bike or we have a holder and it clips onto the top of the luggage when we need to get to it to fill at a garage.
Small neck on the bottle no problem, just get a used soft drink (coke) bottle, cut the bottom off to desired length and remove the lid and hey presto a funnel then you throw it away when used.

T-piece and fuel tap works on all carb bikes. Even those with vaccum taps.

If you have access, you can just pull the pipe off the tap or carb.

If all else fails, just take 1-2m of clear fuel line and syphon it out of the tank. You can control the flow just by raising the height of the hose. EASY !! (especially if you've ever filled bottles from your homebrew kit lol)

Those quick release unions tend to start weeping/leaking after a while. The one I had had did anyway.

I just went down the local boat shop and bought a squeeze type inline fuel primer and a metre of fuel line. Why didn't I do it sooner????

This suggestion came from the audience at the HU Australia meeting earlier this year, thanks heaps

Glen

Cranky pump
 

I've been using the cranky pump from aerostitch for a while and it works great. It has a metal tip on one end to make sure that it gets to the gas in the tank. Also only pumps when cranking so it's easy to stop when you have the fuel you need. I also like that I can use it in reverse and put the unused fuel back in the tank.