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Can you buy a swag in Germany for a motorbike?
So here's how I imagined my trip. Me rocking up into a town with my swag rolled under my headlight. I stop at a camp site, roll out the swag and go to sleep. Quick easy and entirely self sufficient.
Swag (n): A single person tent or bivouac which includes mattress, insulation and a single tent pole to create an area for the head. Me Ol’ Swaggaroo… the Australian ‘Swag Bag’ | Path Of The Paddle Turns out it's just an Australian thing or maybe I can't find the right name for it. I've been looking up biwaksack (German for bivouac) and you get some truly chilling results: [url=http://www.globetrotter.de/de/shop/detail.php?mod_nr=113440&k_id=0500&hot=0]W |
Probably a bit wet in Europe for that sort of canvas johnny. Reckon it would get wetted out and weigh a ton in no time.
Maybe something along the lines of a hooped Gore-tex bivvy is what you are looking for? This is a terra nova jupiter: Terra Nova Jupiter Bivi Bag - FieldAndTrek.com About the best on the market and what I use for overnighting in the mountains. Expensive though. You can get them cheaper than this, of course, and there are more economical, if less good, brands available. Ex army gore-tex bivis are available for as little as around £30 on ebay in the UK, but they have drawstring hoods and wouldn't be much fun in a rainstorm. Plus they are not always waterproof. I suppose it depends on how well the squaddie has looked after it! Good luck! :) matt:) |
Thanks mate. Are these the sorts of things that include a mattress and insulation in them: as in can you just sleep in them without anything extra?
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No, its just a waterproof bag. You'd need to use it in conjunction with a mat and a sleeping bag. There's nothing stopping you rolling them all up together, though. In fact that's what I do. It means you can, like with an Aussie swag, just unroll it, stick in your pegs to keep the hood up, and jump in (OK wriggle in!). I was up in the scottish mountains in horrendous winds recently and it only took a minute or so to pull it out of my pack and set it up.
It'll stand up to brutal treatment. I was up with a few mates, all in similar pieces of kit and we had no problems. I'm guessing 99% of tents would have ended up 20 miles away! :) I just had a thought - if you you are buying in Germany you might be able to get something ex-german army from a surplus store. A while ago I bought an ex-german army "gore-tex" jacket on ebay for £13. It is totally waterproof and seems very breathable. Once I'd cut the pixie hood off it makes a great bad weather over-jacket when I'm on the bike! :thumbup1: Matt |
Genius! Will give it a shot and let you know how it goes. Any idea about how to find an ex-army surplus store in Germany?
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Try these:
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Right on! Sweet lead!
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Swags
Swags are loved by Australians as there's something romantic about just rolling out your bedroll under a sky full of stars. However comfy they are - and they are that - they take up a huge amount of space when rolled up. Also, for somewhere like Europe, could you stick 2 or 3 days in the pouring rain in a swag? At least a tent + sleeping bag gives room to move, cook, play cards, change clothes, stay warm and dry, talk to the girlfriend, read or whatever. Not for me.
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To be honest due to the size & practicality I`ve hardly used it, and may have to consider what I`ll do with in the long term |
To swag, or not to swag. That is the question.... :clown:
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People are very nostalgic about swags but they are big and heavy. They were conceived for transporting on a mule or a camel and nowadays on a UTE(pickup).
There's nothing special about it, its just a bivouac sac, a sleeping mat and a sleeping bag rolled up. I would prefer a tent though, many bivouac sacks don't even allow you to take your boots and/or your backpack inside. In European temperatures this time of the year you must have a goretex bag, otherwise condensation in the bag will make your sleeping bag wet and then it gets cooold. |
I've one of the Burke and Willis Waratah Swags and whilst it's really comfy, like has been said already, they are really bulky. Mine's been used mainly at shows when I was working so had plenty of room to fit it in a vehicle. Did have 4 nights running of heavy rain at a show in wales and it kept the worst of the water out - not all of it but enough not to worry too much.
I also have one of the ex MOD goretex bivi bags and with a thermarest type mat inside it and a decent sleeping bag, have had a few good nights sleep in it. Takes up a whole load less space compared to a swag too. |
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