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Originally Posted by Bertrand (Post 330630)

OldBMW- if it won't simmer, it needs servicing - as something isn't right- mine does beautifully-
If it's this one you have, (same as mine) you simply change the jet for the gas-
Jet number 45 is for gas, 37 gasoline/whitegas and 28 for diesel/kerosene.
It is a very good stove and should you run out of gas but have your bike, you won't be stuck for a brew-up

servicing? the thing is new. will not simmer slowly. I know about the jets, but why use it as a clumsy gaz stove when my £10 wonder is 10 time better? Incidentally I started using it on kerosene and thought that poor. in fact it works better on kero than anything else :(
trying to cook my first curry it went out as i tried to lower the flame, the heat exchanger is just too small to work at low throttle openings. I had to switch to the gaz stove to finish cooking our supper in the snowy Pyrenees.

Will probably buy another gaz stove as it takes up no more room than the fuel bottle and that means i can deploy two cookers at once if needed. Without leaking as i connect or disconnect the fuel. ( I leave the gaz canister permanently connected).

Oldbmw , "Why use it as a clumsy gas stove?" ermm well I don't consider it clumsy- it roars or whispers whichever fuel I use and give me maximum choice of fuels-" Diesel isn't quite 'as nice' to cook with but works fine-
I am guessing that the fuel filter in yours is blocked / partly perished -it's a really tiny white part- look in the pictures- that would probably account for it not simmering.
Without wishing to come across as a clever-clogs - it may help if you are shown how to use it- Last biker I met in southern Morocco was about to chuck his away in the bin in complete frustration- when I cleaned it and showed him 'how-to' he was the happiest bunny on the prairie and was amazed how brilliantly his stove really was- (btw- I hated mine until I was shown how-to as well!)

When I go further afield and rely on petrol & I use the Optimus Nova stove- which uses a QD to the fuel bottle (no more leaks on disconnection -see pic)- they both need pre-heat -which takes no time at all- but are very strong cookers and quite small weight.

Below is the Nova- with saelf cleaning needle operated by a magnet-clever- reducing field cleaning massively-
Tip- if anyone wants to buy the Nova PLUS- consider this- I had one and the fuel pipe is the simmer / full burn control- Because of its curved shape it is a real nuisance to operate so I sold it- picture below is the standard Nova with foldaway handle which a solid and reliable piece of kit-
My 2 pence!
Oldbmw, if you ever swing by Kent, bring it round & I'll try to fix it for you:chef:- I've cooked many a tasty meal on that cooker and still do! would be a shame to dump it-

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Originally Posted by mj (Post 268120)

Do you happen to know anybody else with that same problem? What I'm trying to figure out is whether this is a general problem or specific to your stove. Because a stove that expensive should not suffer from defects such as this. And the 170€ price tag is accurate for Germany - I've seen'em online for ~160€ plus S&H. And since we still have a 190€ coupon (returned a North Face jacket that turned out to be anything but waterproof) for a spots equipment store that happens to carry camping and hiking equipment as well, we'll probably get it there.

I'm still not convinced though, and still not sure I'm willing to spend that much money on something as basic as a fuel stove. The cleaning part does relieve me a bit though, I don't mind cleaning it every now and then as long as it's not twice a week ;)

mine never leaks when i connect the fuelbottle to the stove.
when im done cooking i will first close the bottle, then i let the stove burn out, no leaking what so ever!

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Originally Posted by Blackthunder (Post 330429)

Primus multi fuel never again.:thumbdown:

I initially was very excited about the Primus multi fuel. As it is lightweight and burns most oil based fuels. However shortly after I bought the stove it started leaking at the coupling. So I contacted Primus and they informed that this was common problem with the older pumps and they posted me anew repalcement one. The new pump started leaking within a few hours of use. I personally never want to use one of these high tech looking multi fuel stoves again. They are prone to leaking and have many flimsy parts that cause problems when you least expect it. I would stick with an old school sturdy stove like the SVEA123, a gas cooker or for small trips maybe even haximine tablets or just make a wood fire. I found out that with stoves and outdoor cooking in general simpler is better.

Just my opinion ... We used the Primus MultiFuel about 2 years. I guess, I took the stove about a hundred times apart and had to clean it .... in the end almost after every use :thumbdown:

Right now, we are testing a new setup for our longterm travelling and btw. we are cooking and boiling at least twice a day (breakfast and dinner)

We have 3 stoves and they are simple and work always :D

1. Hobo Stove, made by Künzi ... used also as a small and nice campfire http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/pub...fdiv9p7g=s90-c :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:

about 500gr. and folds into the size of an postcard

2. Meth Stove, which we put into the Hobo for wind protection and pot stand, like you see in the picture (similar)

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pub...YrBXAVVA=s90-c

3. Propan Stove, as a back up or second stove for the big party :thumbup1:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/jpg...74-i62211b.jpg the cannister is with a screw, so for transport you take it apart

I know, maybe it`s an overkill .... doh but now we can choose between propan, meth or just any small wood lying around every campground and there are no parts which can break.

We also use the Grillput

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...pAqKeKMUhX/9k=
:innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: :innocent::innocent:

I just like good food and freshly made together with somebier

I have completed another trip using my cheap gas stove.

If anyone wants to buy a multifuel used less than 10 times, pm me.

Rocket stove for pennies and free fuel anyone?

Home made rocket stove? - I'm a newbie to this an still planning my trip, but there's no way I'm paying out what I consider silly money for a stove and then carry on paying for the fuel.
shoot me down, but I'll be taking something like this with me, as long as it cooks my grub and makes a brew, i shan't be consulting any scientists or advertising executives.

YouTube - ‪ERUPTOR 2 WITH FIRE‬&rlm;

I personly used a colman multi fuel cooker Featherlight 442 looks like this Coleman UK - Unleaded Sportster® II my old 1 got 'lost' in gulf 1

I have just got this cascadedesigns.com/en/msr/stoves/expedit...ternationale/product £40 reduced in blacks as no box!! sorry couldnt resist, (the GF don't know )

I have tryed it out at home in the garden, and quite happy, I only got it as it was lighter & packs up smaller than the coleman.

For the next few short trips I will carry both, to see if I have any underlying problems, as I do not want to be in the middle of no where & find the stove is buggered