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Jacob_Wisdom 16 Oct 2013 13:12

Ferry In Service from Panama to Colombia
 
San Blas Ferry - Home, Portobelo, Cartagena, San Blas, Panama, Columbien

I e-mailed them to verify ferry service began yesterday as expected and the reply was as follows:

On Oct 16, 2013 12:49 PM, <info@sanblasferry.com> wrote:
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> Hi Jacob,
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> Yes, we are operating,
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> Cheers, Fritz

Note: I'm in London, hence the impossible timestamp.

I'm still undecided about using them, depends if the cost for transporting a motorcycle ($459) includes rider, or if that would run an additional $249. I've sent a response inquiring about the same.

checkerdd 17 Oct 2013 02:13

I ain't saying it is not true. The conventional wisdom is you either sail on the yaul Starrot or fly with Garig. Spelling improvised. Dave

AndyT 17 Oct 2013 04:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkerdd (Post 440419)
The conventional wisdom is you either sail on the yaul Starrot or fly with Garig. Spelling improvised. Dave

You are right, but if this ferry is for real, that changes the equation. Would love to hear from someone who has used it, if it exists.

Jacob_Wisdom 17 Oct 2013 10:08

I received a response from Fritz. The rider and motorcycle are charged separately, so a bike ($459) plus rider ($249) would come to $708. I also would like to hear about the experience of someone who took the journey, assuming such a person exists.

teevee 18 Oct 2013 03:40

apparently, their first trip which was suppose to take place on the 15th did not.

Farkles 18 Oct 2013 03:59

I also received an email from Fritz but I may have not directed my question specifically enough. It was "confirmed" that the ferry "is running" but nothing specifically about the first run on the 15th of Oct.

Peter Bodtke 21 Oct 2013 03:40

Apple and Oranges
 
Those that follow reports of ferry service between Panama and Colombia are want to spell it "fairy" service, as news of service last year was fiction not reality. Perhaps this new service is real. Time and the first rider report will tell.

To the best of my knowledge there are currently three sail boats in operation, providing passage to and from Panama and Colombia (on the Caribbean side): the Stalhratte, the Independence and the Jacqueline. I can only speak to my experience on the Stalhratte, posted price for rider and moto is $980 (USD.) Per my crossing in fall 2012, the transit is a day longer and $25 more than described, because motos are loaded the day before. The extra $25 was to sleep on a Kuna island and be fed dinner the night before setting sail. Other than the extra cost for extra day on a Kuna island, food, non-booze beverages, and bunks for the balance of the trip was included. Swimming, beach BBQ (with bug juice & rum included), all in four days, three nights... PS: Immigrations came to the Stalhratte to stamp us out of Panama. Again, I can't speak to the service offered by the Independence and the Jacqueline, and only guess that their service is roughly similar. Your mileage may differ.

I don't think the experience on one of the above sail boats can be compared to the new "San Blas Ferry." Other than to say they both get you from one country to the other. The ferry price is ~$700 (rider and moto.) Do you get anything else? Where would you sleep during the 24 hour crossing? Shower? Are meals included in the price? If not included, is food and drink available for purchase? Will immigrations come to the ferry to cancel your visa?

Very curious to see if this new service actually starts and to read the rider reports.

lightcycle 29 Oct 2013 00:02

Just heard a 2nd hand report from someone who took the San Blas ferry. Here's the Coles Notes version, I'm sure 1st hand accounts will start coming in very soon.

- Ferry was advertised to depart Portobelo, Panama on 15th October
- Actual departure date was Wed 23rd October
- Ferry was advertised as a 24-hour trip
- Actual arrival was this afternoon (Mon 28th October)! A bit less than 6 days total onboard.
- No dock in Cartagena, so the ferry went back and forth between Cartagena and Baranquilla and back.
- Ferry is very old, run-down and dirty, no shower on board and only two toilets. No air conditioning and no beds. The passengers had to sleep on hammocks outside for the entire 6 days.
- Bikes are still on the ferry because there isn't a dock to unload them onto. They require small boats to bring the motorcycles onshore. They are anticipating unloading tomorrow perhaps.

markharf 29 Oct 2013 00:39

So....on the one hand, things are better than expected--that is, a ferry actually exists.

On the other hand, things are far, far worse--no beds, no shower, no sanitation, no way to unload (What would they have done with cars or trucks?), and a 600% overage on the schedule. I wonder about food, too: if expecting a daylong journey one might not bring enough food, liquor or entertainment for the week.

Great to have something concrete. Thanks for reporting.

Mark

ElExplorador 29 Oct 2013 18:04

Real Cost
 
So what is the total going to come to including offloading with boats, I wonder? Hope to hear it goes smoothly for everyone! (for once)

ElExplorador 29 Oct 2013 18:05

Also, question to the people who have crossed - Anyone have any info on this?


Panamanian visa entry fee: The Panamanian Migration authorities have begun charging $100 per passenger unless the passenger can provide proof that they will leaving Panama within 72 hours of arrival. Whilst we have yet to receive a clear answer from the authorities on the basis for this charge, we recommend that you bring a printout of your onward journey from Panama or you will be personally liable to pay the $100 fee to the Panamanian Migration authorities.

panavalk 30 Oct 2013 13:49

cannot believe this $100 charge to be true as Pana law gives you 6 months "visa" for most nationalities. Your drivers licence however is only valid for 3 months

lightcycle 30 Oct 2013 23:55

We saw the bikers at Aduana yesterday morning in Cartagena, some more info:

- managed to get the bikes off ferry via a floating dock
- there were 14 passengers on board and 3 motorcycles, no other vehicles
- each day they were promised that the ferry would dock the next day, it didn't do so for another 5 days
- in total, the ferry tried to dock 6 times at different ports
- it seems the captain left Panama without proper authorization to dock in Colombia
- at one point, the auto-pilot broke and the ferry did a huge circle out at sea
- they said it was the most harrowing experience ever and would not repeat it again

markharf 31 Oct 2013 01:19

A truly impressive performance.

Hey, is that the Jacob who bought a KLR from Jake in Costa Rica? Still riding that thing?

lightcycle 31 Oct 2013 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElExplorador (Post 441801)
Panamanian visa entry fee: The Panamanian Migration authorities have begun charging $100 per passenger unless the passenger can provide proof that they will leaving Panama within 72 hours of arrival. Whilst we have yet to receive a clear answer from the authorities on the basis for this charge, we recommend that you bring a printout of your onward journey from Panama or you will be personally liable to pay the $100 fee to the Panamanian Migration authorities.

I believe this is only for people *arriving* to Panama by sea. Does not apply if you are riding across the border to Panama or if you are leaving Panama by sea.


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