Ferry In Service from Panama to Colombia
 

San Blas Ferry - Home, Portobelo, Cartagena, San Blas, Panama, Columbien

I e-mailed them to verify ferry service began yesterday as expected and the reply was as follows:

On Oct 16, 2013 12:49 PM, <info@sanblasferry.com> wrote:
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> Hi Jacob,
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> Yes, we are operating,
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> Cheers, Fritz

Note: I'm in London, hence the impossible timestamp.

I'm still undecided about using them, depends if the cost for transporting a motorcycle ($459) includes rider, or if that would run an additional $249. I've sent a response inquiring about the same.

I ain't saying it is not true. The conventional wisdom is you either sail on the yaul Starrot or fly with Garig. Spelling improvised. Dave

You are right, but if this ferry is for real, that changes the equation. Would love to hear from someone who has used it, if it exists.

I received a response from Fritz. The rider and motorcycle are charged separately, so a bike ($459) plus rider ($249) would come to $708. I also would like to hear about the experience of someone who took the journey, assuming such a person exists.

apparently, their first trip which was suppose to take place on the 15th did not.

I also received an email from Fritz but I may have not directed my question specifically enough. It was "confirmed" that the ferry "is running" but nothing specifically about the first run on the 15th of Oct.

Apple and Oranges
 

Those that follow reports of ferry service between Panama and Colombia are want to spell it "fairy" service, as news of service last year was fiction not reality. Perhaps this new service is real. Time and the first rider report will tell.

To the best of my knowledge there are currently three sail boats in operation, providing passage to and from Panama and Colombia (on the Caribbean side): the Stalhratte, the Independence and the Jacqueline. I can only speak to my experience on the Stalhratte, posted price for rider and moto is $980 (USD.) Per my crossing in fall 2012, the transit is a day longer and $25 more than described, because motos are loaded the day before. The extra $25 was to sleep on a Kuna island and be fed dinner the night before setting sail. Other than the extra cost for extra day on a Kuna island, food, non-booze beverages, and bunks for the balance of the trip was included. Swimming, beach BBQ (with bug juice & rum included), all in four days, three nights... PS: Immigrations came to the Stalhratte to stamp us out of Panama. Again, I can't speak to the service offered by the Independence and the Jacqueline, and only guess that their service is roughly similar. Your mileage may differ.

I don't think the experience on one of the above sail boats can be compared to the new "San Blas Ferry." Other than to say they both get you from one country to the other. The ferry price is ~$700 (rider and moto.) Do you get anything else? Where would you sleep during the 24 hour crossing? Shower? Are meals included in the price? If not included, is food and drink available for purchase? Will immigrations come to the ferry to cancel your visa?

Very curious to see if this new service actually starts and to read the rider reports.

Just heard a 2nd hand report from someone who took the San Blas ferry. Here's the Coles Notes version, I'm sure 1st hand accounts will start coming in very soon.

- Ferry was advertised to depart Portobelo, Panama on 15th October
- Actual departure date was Wed 23rd October
- Ferry was advertised as a 24-hour trip
- Actual arrival was this afternoon (Mon 28th October)! A bit less than 6 days total onboard.
- No dock in Cartagena, so the ferry went back and forth between Cartagena and Baranquilla and back.
- Ferry is very old, run-down and dirty, no shower on board and only two toilets. No air conditioning and no beds. The passengers had to sleep on hammocks outside for the entire 6 days.
- Bikes are still on the ferry because there isn't a dock to unload them onto. They require small boats to bring the motorcycles onshore. They are anticipating unloading tomorrow perhaps.

So....on the one hand, things are better than expected--that is, a ferry actually exists.

On the other hand, things are far, far worse--no beds, no shower, no sanitation, no way to unload (What would they have done with cars or trucks?), and a 600% overage on the schedule. I wonder about food, too: if expecting a daylong journey one might not bring enough food, liquor or entertainment for the week.

Great to have something concrete. Thanks for reporting.

Mark

Real Cost
 

So what is the total going to come to including offloading with boats, I wonder? Hope to hear it goes smoothly for everyone! (for once)

Also, question to the people who have crossed - Anyone have any info on this?


Panamanian visa entry fee: The Panamanian Migration authorities have begun charging $100 per passenger unless the passenger can provide proof that they will leaving Panama within 72 hours of arrival. Whilst we have yet to receive a clear answer from the authorities on the basis for this charge, we recommend that you bring a printout of your onward journey from Panama or you will be personally liable to pay the $100 fee to the Panamanian Migration authorities.

cannot believe this $100 charge to be true as Pana law gives you 6 months "visa" for most nationalities. Your drivers licence however is only valid for 3 months

We saw the bikers at Aduana yesterday morning in Cartagena, some more info:

- managed to get the bikes off ferry via a floating dock
- there were 14 passengers on board and 3 motorcycles, no other vehicles
- each day they were promised that the ferry would dock the next day, it didn't do so for another 5 days
- in total, the ferry tried to dock 6 times at different ports
- it seems the captain left Panama without proper authorization to dock in Colombia
- at one point, the auto-pilot broke and the ferry did a huge circle out at sea
- they said it was the most harrowing experience ever and would not repeat it again

A truly impressive performance.

Hey, is that the Jacob who bought a KLR from Jake in Costa Rica? Still riding that thing?

I believe this is only for people *arriving* to Panama by sea. Does not apply if you are riding across the border to Panama or if you are leaving Panama by sea.

Hey Mark - yes! I left the bike on the farm last year and did some more traveling: around the rest of Central America/Mexico, a PCH ride to Vancouver and recently completed a trip from England to Mongolia and back. In January I'm headed back to the farm in Costa Rica to pick up the bike and then I'll head south.

Thanks for the tip on it!

You're welcome. It sounds to me like if you hadn't been riding the KLR, we might have lost Jake forever.

Safe journeys!

Mark

I sailed with the Luka on their trip from Portobelo/Panama via San Blas to Cartagena. We left September 5t and arrived the 10th.
All really professional and also really fun. The food they cooked for us was good as well. The 3 days in San Blas islands were really cool, swimming in the crystal clear blue water, amazing lobster and fish.
I don’t have anything bad about that trip to say.
( the only disadvantage: I had to make the custom/immigration for my bike, they did not take care of it)
I paid $950 ($400 for motorbike and $550 for me)

Every beginning is difficult.....
 

it is almost impossible to start a ferry,I'm glad that Fritz has the guts to do it.
It will take a few times to figure out what the best is to do and than it will be a great solution to cross the darien gap.

hold and continue!

Saludos Rene

Shipping
 

From these notes it appears the Stalheatte boat is the way to go???

It is the way to go!! (Stahlratte)

About the "ferry":
To call it "having guts" is having guts. This guy seems to walk over dead bodies, without caring at all and uses boats that do not get a permit in other countries!
Compared to what he "delivered" and what he charges for that joke...actually HE should pay the guests to dare doing such a kind of trip. Hello, 6 DAYS instead of 24 hours! no fun at all, no San Blas, no bed, no shower and a toilet that you did not want to enter. Just imagine the food variety...:ban:

PS: I talked personally to the 3 guys on the ferry (they called it more horror than trip)

Documentary: Crossing the Darien Gap
 

Just keep watching the English translation will come

We will do this next year

Xfiltrate and rosa del desierto

this is how we load the bikes on RORO SAN BLAS FERRY
http://www.dllpyb.com/wp-content/upl...1/IMG_0748.jpg
and trip review
Don't Let Life Pass You By

:oops2:

It will take time to work out the bumps..
 

Hi. New to HU, but I have been living in Panama part time for the last 8 years. i think eventually the ferry service will become common, but as the previous experiences indicate panama seems to plow ahead with no regard to the service side. What a crazy story, but almost normal for that country. Give it another 6 months. A year ago it was said a 1500 person, 500 car ferry was to start. However for that price all totaled, I would rather ride the Stallratt(?) and know I was getting 5 days, with food.
Cheers for the info.

So from the KlaraHitlrPolzl link, this is what I gather:
1) The Captain failed to verify that he had clearance to land in Cartagena. If he had, everything would have gone as expected.
2) The Canadian onboard was an idiot.
3) The woman who split from the naked man was not.
4) They should have just pulled anchor and left the port instead of paying $1500 in fees.

Napoleon Complex
 

The owner of SAN BLAS FERRY is a cook with Napoleon Complex, certainly not qualified EL CAPITAN
:oops2:

In Panama
 

In Panama City at the moment, looking for a boat or a way to get into Columbia.

Being in Panama city and beginning the search for transport to ColOmbia is
probably a bit late to expect quick service on one of the boats.From what I keep reading on these sites is that folks make their reservation for a particular trip weeks and months before thei actual depart date.
Go up to Portobelo and talk to Marco the Quebecer who runs the El Drake bar and cheap hostel there . In 2009 he told me he ran a small boat to Colombia to haul motorcyclists back and forth.And you can investigate if the other boat Stahlratte farther east has an openinbg.
A surefire method is to go to the Tocumen International Airport at Panama City and arrange AIR FREIGHT. Total cost will be no greater than suffering :confused1: the sea voyage.At least you will get there without a rusted out salt covered bike

options...
 

Check in with the Wunderbar hostel. They are a hub of info for those headed to Colombia. Fitz might have room on his catamaran. There is also the Independence, but I have no idea of their current schedule. I am friends on Facebook with the Stalhratte and believe the next trip (Dec. 2013) is booked out, but suggest you send a note to Ludwig as there is always the chance of a cancellation. He usually has room for bike, but runs out of bunks. You could ship your bike no the Stalratte and take other transport... I imagine this split transport option has a few downsides.

If you are in Panama City already and have a flare for adventure, ask around on the Pacific side for cargo boat transport to Colombia. Try to go "all the way" as taking multiple legs on short haul launches may leave you stuck in a coastal town waiting and negotiating with the next boat headed south.