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motoreiter 3 Jul 2010 07:30

Online JOURNAL, not BLOG
 
Hi, I currently maintain a blog on blogger for travel pix, etc., but I really hate how Blogger (and all other blogs as far as I can tell), order posts in reverse chronological order (ie, most recent post first). When I'm telling about a trip, etc. I want my posts to be in chronological order (old post first).

can anyone recommend how to best to this (without coding my own website, etc.)?

Mickey D 3 Jul 2010 07:59

Ride Tales Thread?
 
Start a thread in Ride Tales or set up your own Blog on HU. Very few will ever see an individual blog unless its family or close friends.
If you start a thread on Ride Tales then you reach everyone who reads the HUBB and HU. Its up to you to make it good enough to interest readers to keep coming back. Thread notification helps with this.

It's also "interactive". Some control freak types don't like any response from others "messing up" their story. But most travelers like the (mostly) encouraging words from both friends and strangers alike while on the road.
Also, offers of help may appear, advice, whatever.

This is how ADV rider was built ... ride reports. Some Ride Reports there have gone on for years and have over a million views and a hundred thousand posts. Several have built this exposure into a book deal. Others have become so popular the "community" ends up supporting the rider, setting up a Pay Pal account to keep him going on the road. But ADV is about 90% American. Americans are generous to a fault.
Here .... ah, not so much! :helpsmilie:

motoreiter 3 Jul 2010 08:34

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not looking to do ride reports, or for a wide audience. Just a journal for my own future reference and family and friends. Not interested in doing this on HUBB or ADVRider.

TravellingStrom 3 Jul 2010 14:14

Hi

Not sure if it is any help, but I also wanted my blog in chronological order. I ended up using Wordpress and each time I made a blog entry(or in your case a diary entry) I edited the date so it would appear when I wanted it to and where. This allowed me to post days behind and only one post per page, which is basically the only way to do that with a blog style system.

It worked for me, check out my web page and you can see on the top left, the calander and drop down box for different months and years etc.

It may not suit you, but it may give you some ideas.

With mine, of course it would always show the latest post when you go to the page, but it is then easy to pick a date to start reading.

Cheers
TS

motoreiter 3 Jul 2010 14:41

Wordpress certainly looks more powerful than blogger, I'm sorry I didn't start with WP. That said, I don't think that it does exactly what I want to to do, either. It is such a simple thing to put posts in chronological order rather than reverse order, not sure why it is so hard to find what I'm looking for.

boarder 3 Jul 2010 15:53

I hear you. I also found the reverse chronological order silly unless you blog as you go.

Wordpress can be tweaked to show the oldest post first with a plugin called "Custom Query String" (Download @ MoshuBlog). I have done that on my blog. The plugin allows to tweak the order of different categories, i.e. you could set it up to list all post for past trips in ascending chronological order and the current trip in reverse order.

motoreiter 3 Jul 2010 16:38

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Originally Posted by boarder (Post 295480)
I hear you. I also found the reverse chronological order silly unless you blog as you go.

This problem remains even if you blog as you go, right, because the dates remain the same...

The wordpress hack sounds like what I need, but I dread converting from blogger to wordpress--I've heard that I'd have to reload all of my pictures...and a tried a similar hack on blogger, but it didn't work...

maybe I'll just set up a test bed on wordpress and see how it works out.

TravellingStrom 4 Jul 2010 00:16

I never used the photo album from WP because it was too slow and clumsy to use. I have a photobucket account, free, and all my photos get loaded there, then I link each into the WP blog.

There is probably a better/different way to do things now, but as you know, once you have committed to one way, it is a very arduous job to change.

The only way out would be to have all the photos on a server at home and link to that with a static IP.

Cheers
TS

boarder 4 Jul 2010 04:49

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Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 295482)
This problem remains even if you blog as you go, right, because the dates remain the same...

Not sure I understand what you mean by that but in any case you have a choice which order you want posts to appear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 295482)
The wordpress hack sounds like what I need, but I dread converting from blogger to wordpress--I've heard that I'd have to reload all of my pictures...and a tried a similar hack on blogger, but it didn't work...

maybe I'll just set up a test bed on wordpress and see how it works out.

You can host your pictures wherever you like. I have my blog setup to post by email, photos are added as email attachments, which a server script unpacks and stuffs in the right directory.

Depending on how many posts you have you can convert them manually and use search & replace to fix the image URLs. All you have to do is copy your images from your blogger image directory to the wordpress image directory.

For a larger amount of posts I would look into automatic conversion. Many have gone this way and there are plenty of tools for that out there, i.e. blogger to wordpress converter - Google Search

Cheers and good luck

motoreiter 4 Jul 2010 05:47

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Originally Posted by boarder (Post 295547)
Not sure I understand what you mean by that but in any case you have a choice which order you want posts to appear.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this is true...for instance, lets say I have entries that I want to post from July 1, 2, and 3, and I want the posts to be labelled with the correct date. In other words, the entry about July 2 should be labelled July 2. In this case, I don't have any choice--in blogger the entries will appear July 3, 2, 1.

boarder 4 Jul 2010 07:29

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Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 295555)
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this is true...for instance, lets say I have entries that I want to post from July 1, 2, and 3, and I want the posts to be labelled with the correct date. In other words, the entry about July 2 should be labelled July 2. In this case, I don't have any choice--in blogger the entries will appear July 3, 2, 1.

Yes, that's true for a stock Blogger or Wordpress setup. However, the point of the Wordpress plugin is that you can reverse the order. You have control on how you do this. You could for instance have all the posts in category tripA appear in chronological order, all the posts in category tripB in reverse chronological order. That's what the plugin does.

Cheers

TravellingStrom 4 Jul 2010 08:05

Well, if you are posting one post a day, then in WP it is easy, edit the POST date and change it to whatever you want, you can call it December if you want, but still post it under a July date

If you are trying to post 3 different days, but have them all on the one page, then you need to write it in that order.

I really fail to see what the issue is :?

Maybe I am dense, can you explain exactly what you want to achieve with an example please

Redboots 4 Jul 2010 08:05

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Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 295555)
I want to post from July 1, 2, and 3, and I want the posts to be labelled with the correct date. In other words, the entry about July 2 should be labelled July 2. In this case, I don't have any choice--in blogger the entries will appear July 3, 2, 1.

Textpattern, similar to WP has the facility to display articles in the form you want:
To sort by title in ascending alphabetical order:<txp:article sort="Title asc" />
To sort by Category 1 in descending order:<txp:article sort="Category1 desc" />


Lots of free themes available as well. I'm just playing with a new one here

John


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