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exrm193 24 Aug 2008 17:39

Mapsource on an Asus EEE????
 
Anyone got it to work yet??

I`ve read lots of good stuff about the Asus EEE laptop. I`m close to getting one, purely to use with Mapsource maps and the Garmin Zumo.

Has anyone got Mapsource up and running on an EEE yet??

Thanks

ukiceman 24 Aug 2008 18:12

i say forget it
 
Hi

I’ve got MapSource with a Zumo, I also know a bit about Linux. MapSource was compiled for an IBM PC running windows. Some people will say install windows emulation software such as Wine or Crossover Office on the Linux box, I say, forget it. MapSource is far to complex for emulation software you’ll need a version ported to Linux, I doubt if they’ll ever do it.

While I type this I’m thinking, I am sure I saw a eee PC or something like it running windows the last time I was in staples? I might be wrong

exrm193 24 Aug 2008 19:02

There is a Windows version available. That`s the one I was on about.....

MountainMan 24 Aug 2008 19:17

Yes, I met a dutch rider a couple of weeks ago who was on his way south from Alaska and he mentioned that was running it on his new Asus. I didn't actually see it on action though.

RickMcD 24 Aug 2008 19:49

Works Fine!
 
Mapsource works fine on the Asus Eee 900 with windows BUT you must install it to another drive besides the C: drive if you are also installing a City Nav version (and who wouldn't) as they are over 1 gig. I have it all on my D: drive including Worldmap, City Nav Australia, Tracks 4 Australia, and Shonky Maps. There is a lot of information in other threads as well. Good Luck.
Rick
www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/rickmcd

pbekkerh 24 Aug 2008 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickMcD (Post 203688)
Mapsource works fine on the Asus Eee 900 with windows BUT you must install it to another drive besides the C: drive if you are also installing a City Nav version (and who wouldn't) as they are over 1 gig. I have it all on my D: drive including Worldmap, City Nav Australia, Tracks 4 Australia, and Shonky Maps. There is a lot of information in other threads as well. Good Luck.
Rick
www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/rickmcd

Would you care to elaborate on that ?

Why is it neccessary with 2 drives ?

Did you partition the flash drive in to 2 drives ?

"City Nav" is that Garmin City Navigator ?

Thank You

RickMcD 25 Aug 2008 02:36

More on Mapsource.
 
The Asus Eee900 (Windows XP) comes with two installed flash drives. The c: (boot) drive is 4 gigs. The d: is 8 gigs. The d: has some applications pre-installed also (Works, etc). Out of the box Windows xp takes up a bit over 2 gigs on the c: drive. There are a couple of things that I installed that I thought really ought to be on the c: drive (anti virus, etc.) and had only about 1.5 gigs left on the c: when all done. Mapsource with City Navigator takes just over 1 gig. That is too close especially if you want some additional maps like I did. It was either the d: with about 7.5 gigs available or the on the 16 gig sd card that I bought and installed in the available port. You could also get a 32 gig card if you wanted for that port but they are still fairly expensive. There are a LOT more knowledgeable folks here than me but I am happy with the 900 and it is working fine for me with mapsource and a LOT of maps. Leaving for Australia on the 28th. Is that the info you were looking for??
Rick www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/rickmcd

Frank Warner 25 Aug 2008 03:02

To calarify

City Navigator is Garmins map data .. and it comes in
Different countries (Nothre America?, Europe, Australia)
Different configurations( NT and non NT)
different versions (basically yrearly upgrades to newer roads .. etc)

So when some one says 'City Nav takes 1Gb' you'd better be aware that is for one country/area configuration and version. I belive the present Europe version is over 2Gb. Australia is 0.2 Gb ... IIRC. And some people include the mapsource progam inside the map data requirements .. I don't.

I've no idea how much space all my maps take! Well over 10 sets... some are small .. some are larger .. most of the 'free' ones are less than 0.2Gb.
--------------------------------
What I'd like technologically on the road is
Oziexplorer - to take in paper maps (no linux version)
cpsMapeditor - to take in oziexplorer files (?)
cgpsmapper - to generate Garmin Maps (?)
Mapsource to upload maps, transfer routes and waypoints (no linux version)
A word processor - to write stuff
A photo editor (Infraview + gimp)
A spread sheet to do finaces
A web viewer

pbekkerh 25 Aug 2008 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickMcD (Post 203743)
Is that the info you were looking for??
Rick www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/rickmcd

Yes exactly, thank you.
I wasn't aware that the Asus comes with preinstalled D drive. I don't have any yet, I'm waiting for the 901.

buenos 1 Sep 2008 17:28

I bought the EEE 901 with Windows XP because it seems that so far no one can get Mapsource to run under Linux even with the latest emulation software.

The 901 has two internal SSD devices, one 4GB (C:) has windows XP installed on it and the other (d:) is 12GB and you can use for pretty well anything you like. The 4GB SSD is higher performance than the 12 GB one. I have then installed a 16GB SDHC card in the available slot so I have mapsource installed on the D: drive and still have lots of room for data.

The 901 is a pretty decent bit of kit for its price but it is very slow! I've been using it on bike trips for a few weeks and so far I like it!

Joe

exrm193 12 Sep 2008 12:10

Could I copy Mapsource to a Memory Stick and just asttach it to a USB port when I needed to use it??

beddhist 12 Sep 2008 15:22

No, Mapsource must be installed and makes extensive use of the registry. But you can do this:

Carry map installation and mapsource files on CD or stick and install on any PC whenever you need to upload maps. You don't need to do this very often.

Install EasyGPS on a stick to manage tracks and waypoints. This WILL run straight off a stick.

exrm193 12 Sep 2008 19:45

Thanks for that...where/how do I get easygps??

Redboots 12 Sep 2008 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukiceman (Post 203670)
Hi

I’ve got MapSource with a Zumo, I also know a bit about Linux. MapSource was compiled for an IBM PC running windows. Some people will say install windows emulation software such as Wine or Crossover Office on the Linux box, I say, forget it.

This guy claims to have done it:
Jörgs Linux Pages: GPS Software

Wonder if it would work with the 50meg DSL disribution... would be :mchappy:

John

exrm193 12 Sep 2008 20:40

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to complicated for me. I`ll stick with the Windows version once someone tells me how to get it on the damn thing in the first place ;-)

beddhist 13 Sep 2008 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by exrm193 (Post 206541)
Thanks for that...where/how do I get easygps??

Use your favourite search engine to find the free download.

exrm193 17 Sep 2008 11:08

Right. I`ve now got an EEE and a 4GB memory stick on order.
I`m going to copy the whole Mapsource DVD onto the memory stick, plug it in and go from there....I`ll let you know how I get on.........

Redboots 17 Sep 2008 19:50

Install
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by exrm193 (Post 207190)
I`m going to copy the whole Mapsource DVD onto the memory stick, plug it in and go from there....I`ll let you know how I get on.........

You should INSTALL Mapsource and the maps you want to the stick. Just copying is not good enough because that pile of crap known as the registry, has to know where stuff is located.

John

exrm193 22 Sep 2008 20:52

Update; Mapsource is still not working. Everything else is great. Just can`t seem to get Mapsource on there. Seems the windows XP version is cut down slightly and causes problems. Something about file swopping???
My computer guru is on the case. I`ll keep you posted.

BlackBeast 23 Sep 2008 03:24

Yes, please keep us updated as I am considering between the asus and the acer aspire one. So any insight once you have mapsource will be enlightening.

exrm193 23 Sep 2008 16:29

This is what I have tried so far;

I`ve attached an external CD drive with the Mapsource CD inserted.

I`ve attached a 4gb Memory stick.

The plan was to install the Mapsource stuff onto the memory stick.

No luck. The only option available is to store it on the C: drive which is not big enough (I have the 4gb version with Windows XP installed)

Because there is not enough room, that is as far as I get. It would be nice to install all the Registy files etc onto the C: drive and the rest onto the Memory stick, but I don`t think this is possible.

Does anyone know if it would run from the 12gb or 20gb version??

cheers

beddhist 23 Sep 2008 17:33

I've always installed MS on drives other than C:, but have never tried a removable drive.

pbekkerh 23 Sep 2008 17:37

Maybe you can use this information.
When you install the map Malxx, this is (amongst other things ) written into registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource\Produ cts\Malxx]
"LOC"="C:\\Garmin"
"BMAP"="C:\\Garmin\\Malxx.img"
"TDB"="C:\\Garmin\\Malxx.tdb"

The maps are the .img files. If you somehow can install your map with only a few .img files on the C drive, I'm sure you can edit the statement
"BMAP"="C:\\Garmin\\Malxx.img" in registry, to
"BMAP"="D:\\Garmin\\Malxx.img"
and then copy all your .img file to the D destination. Then mapsource should work and all the big files (.img) is placed on D drive.

Use the search command in regedit to find the loaction in registry

exrm193 23 Sep 2008 20:41

I can`t install anything. That`s the problem. It says right at the start there is not enough room on the C: drive and that`s it...installation stops.

I have another cunning plan involving a "portable" hard drive

Stay tuned:helpsmilie:

Frank Warner 23 Sep 2008 23:57

Some do it ...
 
Garmin Map Source On A Thumb Drive - ADVrider

Asus Eee PC and Garmin Mapsource - ADVrider - that refres to he EeePC blog has a lot of useful info. The Forum was especially helpful with info about installing Windows. EeeUser.com » ASUS Eee PC 701, 900, 901, 1000 Blog Forum Wiki Community

exrm193 24 Sep 2008 01:00

OK...I`ve got it working. I installed the Mapsourse stuff onto a portable hard drive "External (H)"

Seems to work fine.

Just need to see if I can now copy the files from there onto an SD card and boot from that??

I`ll keep you posted.

No....didn`t work ;-(

BlackBeast 24 Sep 2008 02:45

what model of the asus are you using?

exrm193 24 Sep 2008 07:40

I have the smallest. THe 701 with a 4gb hard drive. Windows XP loaded on so not much room left on the C: drive.

exrm193 24 Sep 2008 18:14

OK final sitrep. It`s all up and running, but I need a "portable hard drive" to boot from. There is a cheat on the Asus users forum where you change the registry and trick the machine into treating the SD card as a hard drive. Problem is that this is a permanent fix and I will lose my SD card ability. Not made my mind up yet about what to do??

Keep the SD card but use a seperate hard drive or Lose the SD card and use it as a hard drive??:confused1:

teflon 26 Sep 2008 20:17

If any other piece of equipment needed this much time spent on getting it to work, it would be left behind.

BlackBeast 27 Sep 2008 03:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by teflon (Post 208490)
If any other piece of equipment needed this much time spent on getting it to work, it would be left behind.

I hear you. Just thinking about this gives me a headache and I don't even own one yet. Good thing is that the competition is going to catch up whether it be dell or acer and hopefully there will be a manufacturer that develops a plug and play version so that I can spend more time focussing on the more impt. things.:scooter:

Redboots 27 Sep 2008 08:16

Try this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by exrm193 (Post 208050)
I can`t install anything. That`s the problem. It says right at the start there is not enough room on the C: drive and that`s it...installation stops.

I just installed XP on a clean laptop. No updates and no fixpacks. That's 1.62 gigs. That will include the page, (swap), file as that is allocated at startup. My page file is nearly 400 megs (default). The page file is also set to grow, dynamically, as Windows starts more programmes, Mapsource(?) so you can see that it eats disc space.

The Mapsource installation to the 4gig pen drive on E: takes about 1.83 gigs.
Mapsource installs another 55 meg into the \Garmin directory on the C: drive.

The Mapsource install would seem to le looking for the primary allocation to the default install on C:. The reason you are offered no other choices is because default install criterion cannot be met.

You need to pare down what's on the C:, enough to get that initial allocation - even though you wont use it... 'puters eh.


What to do?

At Control Panel > System > Advanced, click Settings in the “Performance” Section. On the Advanced page of the result, the current total physical size of all page files that may be in existence is shown. Make a note of these sizes so that you can restore them later.

Change the "Initial Size" to 100 megs and the Max Size" to 500megs. Click Change to make settings for the Virtual memory operation.
Click OK and reboot the system.

Try the install the the memory stick again.
It might be a little slow.
You can restore the swapfile sizes after the install if you think performance is suffering.

AFTER you have installed Mapsource to the chip, copy the contents of C:\Garmin to the x:\Garmin directory on the memory stick.
Use regedit to change ALL the entries in the registry for C:\Garmin to x:\Garmin, where x: is your chip.

Personally, I would allocate the memory stick a permanent drive letter like Z: so that it never moves. If you don't do that you must always plug the chip in in the same order... ie. at startup. If you plug another chip or device in before the "Mapsource" chip, the letter if the drive will be different to that specified in the registry.

Next, point the Mapsource icon on the desktop or startup list to the new drive letter.

Once you are happy that it runs OK, shutdown Mapsource and delete the Garmin directory on C:

Should work AOK

Cheers,
John

teflon 28 Sep 2008 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBeast (Post 208531)
I hear you. Just thinking about this gives me a headache and I don't even own one yet...

Even when they work right, computers just seem to eat time. Just my thoughts.

Annerman 11 Jan 2009 12:46

Hi
I have an Asus 901 (linux). I chose this because of the larger disk capacity.
First thing to do is to dump the 'xandros' and install a 'proper' linux on the PC. I am using ubuntu linux, as I like the distribution and it is very simple to set up.

I have installed Wine (1.1.6) and I am running Mapsource 6.12.4 (windows version). I had no particular problems when installing.
I tried upgrading to the latest version (web update) but the software stopped working and I had to fall back.

Mail - Novell Evolution mail
Openoffice (word processing, spreadsheet, etc)
SKYPE 2 (for Linux) - a bit antiquated but funtional.
I can attach my sony camera to download and organize pictures.

Basically this set-up gives me what I need at present.

colebatch 19 Feb 2009 08:07

Have an Eee 1000, WinXP, and Mapsource works fine

chris 19 Feb 2009 09:42

As with Colebatch, my eeepc works fine with Mapsource. It's a 901 with WinXP pre-installed. I recall the o/s is on the C drive. I installed Mapsource on the D drive. I've got all other files on an 8gB SD card in the E slot and also backed up on an external USB flash drive.

Here's a pic of it in use in my tent on a Mexican beach
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/DSCN1392.jpg

cheers
Chris

lima 11 Nov 2009 22:05

solved: Mapsource on Eee
 
Hi there,
I have found a simple and secure and legal solution for the problem of running MapSource on a Asus Eee PC. Is decribed here ... (but in german - english follows )

Greetings from Bavaria ... Lutz

exrm193 25 Nov 2009 16:03

I`m all up and running now! :thumbup1:

jimmystewpot 28 Nov 2009 07:07

Hp 2133
 
Hi There,

The EEE PC will run mapsource no problems however it is fairly slow. Personally I chose the HP 2133 as our travel laptop for two reasons. 1 the keyboard was close to full size and 2 the case is aluminium which has taken a beating and didn't break the screen etc. two separate people i met on the road had eee's with broken screens and I believe from the blog so did siberskyextreme..

colebatch 9 Dec 2009 06:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmystewpot (Post 265768)
two separate people i met on the road had eee's with broken screens and I believe from the blog so did siberskyextreme..

Yes ... I am on my third screen now ... but finally I have learned the trick to packing so I dont damage the screen.

All the 10 inch laptops use the same screen, so the Acers and dells will have the same problem ... but I am curious to see how this Aluminium cased version works. Keep us posted.

dave ett 9 Dec 2009 12:05

On my Eeepc 901 I installed Xp on the D drive, along with Mapsource. Turned off MS updates, and it worked very well - if a little slow. Easy to forget how much thinking a 900Mhz processor has to do sometimes!


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