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vincent danna 21 Jun 2005 20:18

yup, i knew mine was maybe not repairable, too much damaged, specially because of the russian police hits on it.

schuberth germany headoffice accepted that i sent it back to them to have a look at it (for product improvment ?), tried to fix it but not possible for safety reason.

at the end, they kept my broken one, i asked for a new c2 model (just in case!) and they sent me nicely a brand new "speed" model size 61 but i m 56/57 (?).

all this took a few emails and 15 days to be solved. thanx schuberth germany headoffice, not the importer or distributors in france.



vincent danna 22 Jun 2005 19:22

just received a second packet from schuberth germany headoffice !

with my broken helmet (they couldn t fix it because of security reason)
+ a special bag to put a helmet inside
+ a spare transparent visor

next episode tomorrow :-)

but than you mr schuberth !

nb : i still wonder why they sent me a size 61 helmet (my size is 56-57) and what to do with (?)

vincent danna 30 Jun 2005 23:27

just received a third packet from schuberth germany headoffice !
with a "speed" helmet size 56-57

i think this is the end of the story now :-)

happy trails

nb : thanx for the idea "bedist" and good luck to "marten" and others


[This message has been edited by vincent danna (edited 30 June 2005).]

beddhist 1 Jul 2005 01:32

Haven't you done well out of that Russian bashing you got!!!

Now you just have to find yourself a girlfriend with a head the correct size. http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/wink.gif

maddave 1 Jul 2005 06:14

Try a Caberg Justissimo. I've had one since they came out and haven't had a mite of bother with it. and they're only £120 new

http://www.bfmmotorcycles.co.uk/cata...Justissimo.jpg

indu 7 Jul 2005 17:48

I'm not sure about these Caberg helmets: Aren't they polycarbonate helmets? I bought my Schubert Concept because (1) I wanted a flip-up helmet, (2) It had to be a fibre helmet - not polycarbonate (which kind of resembles plastic and in case of a fall-over in speed would make your head bounce along the road like a ping-pong ball) and (3) I wanted the sunscreen http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif

I may be wrong, but I always thought that fibre/kevlar helmets was safer than the polycarbonate helmets due to this ping-pong ball bouncing effect which the pc-helmets are prone to. The fibre helmets goes schmack into the ground - and stays there, absorbing the impact from the hit and thus doing a better job protecting your head. Or am I totally astray?

Rx
Hans

Matt Cartney 7 Jul 2005 18:32

I've a Carberg helmet which I like a lot, its the comfiest I've owned (although I realise this is personal). However, it does have that 'plastic' look, presumably its polycarbonate. Plus I dropped it a while back, whats the deal if you drop polycarbonate helmets? Should I bin it?
Matt

indu 7 Jul 2005 20:17

Hm. I did a search on the net and found this rather interesting article:

http://motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/hatz/

And the most interesting bit was probably these to paragraphs:

"Conventional helmet-biz wisdom says fiberglass construction is somehow better at absorbing energy than plastic — something about the energy of the crash being used up in delaminating the shell. And that a stiffer shell lets a designer use softer foam inside—which might absorb energy better.

Our results showed the exact opposite — that plastic-shelled helmets actually performed better than fiberglass. In our big 3-meter hit — the high-energy kind of bash one might expect would show the supposed weaknesses of a plastic shell — the plastic helmets transferred an average of 20 fewer Gs compared with their fiberglass brothers, which were presumably designed by the same engineers to meet the same standards, and built in the same factories by the same people."

Hm again. Maybe Caberg is the way to go after all?

Rx
Hans

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hawaii88 22 Nov 2007 08:41

I use the Schuberth C2, and it's a great helmet. I don't have the problem with screws getting loose, but I do have the problem with the visor interior de-laminating. The visor interior has a special anti-fog / anti-reflection coating, and it peels off, causing glare. I also purchased a second C2, for my passenger, and I had it sitting on the shelf for some time. When it came time to use it, the interior of the visor was permanently foggy.

I suspect that the coating somehow became corrupted from the humid atmosphere here in Hawaii. I was very disappointed, since this was a brand-new, never used helmet!

I will ask if Schuberth can replace this.

Other than the visor interior having a few problems, I do like this helmet very much. It's also super quiet.

I also have the Caberg Justissimo. I hate it. It's noisy, squeeky/creaky, flimsy, and uncomfortable. I'm planning on getting rid of it.

BMurr 22 Nov 2007 23:54

I bought Scuberth Concept as found it hard to get a helmet in size 64/65 for about 280 euro. The BMW 5 comes in that size too but way too expensive for my pocket at about 500 euro here in Ireland.

Vaufi 23 Nov 2007 12:28

By the way - the BMW helmet is made by Schuberth ;-) Just the design (and the price) is defined by BMW.

Koho 11 Mar 2010 14:56

260 Euros repair!!!!
 
This is what i got today from Shuberth after using the helmet (C2) only 11 months grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Problems: visor, front chin wont lock in
regarding the shell not a clue why they wont to change it...never crashed in it.
Lets see what will happen i am not giving them 260Euros,

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Dear Sir,


I contact you regarding the costs for the helmet repair.

Safety related the helmet cannot be used anymore. We need to replace the outer shell (€115,00), the chin part (€96,00) and the visor (€49,00), in total €260,00.

Please informa us about further steps.

With best regards

Schuberth GmbH

Jessica Günther
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D-39126 Magdeburg

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