I've just purchased a set of Ortlieb Moto soft panniers and will be using a pacsafe steel net normally intended for use with rucksacks to secure to the bike, when I need to leave it unattended. I will report how the panniers work out following my upcoming trip.

Tom

Andy Strapz got flamed a bit on the weak seam issues.

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Keen to see how those Ortlieb bags work out. I can't find much info on abrasion resistance with PVC coated nylon fabrics. Have read a report or 2 where they got burned through sliding down a gravel road. But the only bag that would not have that issue is likely the Magadan's. But then again, it's not like there 's heaps of images of torn up saddle bags I think.

I am currently using these however i found out all the screws are plastic which hold the straps !
I took out all the screws and fitted metal screws with large flat washers as i am sure with weight off roading the plastic screws would break.

Also not sure how the Velcro strap would hold up as the main connecting point?!?!

I just took all the connecting straps off and brought some heavy buckle fastening straps from a DIY shop and with a hot screw driver burnt a nice round hole into the straps to screw to the bags. seem to be holding up well but as standard i think there are more like pushbike bags rather than motorbike bags.

With a bit of work as i did above they are fine

Unassisted Simpson Desert Crossing - KTM 690 Enduro
 

Ortleib- I have used mine for 8 years and it is still OK. If you want some tough panniers then look up the ones called Magadans. Top kit.

Lc4e
 

Not to open a new thread I will just ask here. I have a 2003 KTM 640 LC4 Enduro and am in the need of a pannier bags. I do pack as little as possible, here is the weight of my setup on previous bike and a packing list is here. With the panniers I will also use a duffel bag to store the tent and sleeping pad.

Here is my criteria:
-Rackless
-Waterproof
-Easy mounting

Budget is up to a 250€, give or take a bit.

After looking far and wide I have somehow narrowed it down to those 2:

1. Kriega Overlander 30
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server40...09.439.539.jpg
Pros:
-Tight to the bike
-Great quality(already own some of the Kriega gear)
-Simple on/off
Cons:
-Read about some straps loosening
-Third corner flop

2. Enduristan Monsoon 2 or 3
http://www.enduristan.com/uploads/pi...005_001_03.jpg
Pros:
-A bit more space for hauling stuff from shops to campsite at the end of the day
-Compartmentalization
-Enormous opening
Cons:
-To big? Tempted to pack too much stuff
-Quality, haven't seen in person but read something about frayed stitching
-Rear rack required for 640
-Plastic frame, how leg friendly in get-off

I have also looked at GiantLoop(too expensive), Wolfman Rollie series(too small), and some others. I would like them to be available in EU to avoid import charges.

All the suggestions are appreciated.

ADVENTURE DRY SADDLEBAGS

At US $135 a good deal, if you can get them to Slovenia.

I think they can work either as cross seat throw overs or attach to racks
or sub-frame. I have not used these panniers but have used several other
Nelson-Rigg products over last 20 years. Very good, lifetime no hassle warranty.

Why should any of this stuff cost over $150?

Have a read of this thread. This is some real world testing. He's tested pretty much everything rackless out there.

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Thanks for the suggestion, but shipping and taxes are unfortunately a deal killer for us in EU.

I have read that review thanks. It is here I found out about straps slipping on OL30.

I use a set of nylon saddlebags from a horsey site. Well made, thick ballistic nylon. Fit the bike well, AND COST $36 DELIVERED.
Pack the things inside in plastic ziplock bags