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4 adults.

surprised no one has recommend a land rover 130, lots more space behind the seats.

Any thoughts?

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just the vehicle for you

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Originally Posted by jasper110 (Post 151011)

this has possibly been brought up many times before, but i'm having difficulty in choosing a vehicle to replace my landrover 110 CSW.
what i'm looking for is somethinig that can/does;

carry 4 adults comfortably
camping gear and food for 2 weeks (for the 4 above)
able to do an easy 70 on the motorways
comfortable to drive at these speeds
over 20mpg
range over 300 miles
cope with mild off road work ie; iceland
relaible

all of the above plus manage the dog when taking hoildays at home

as you can see, my landrover ticks some of the boxes, but not all of them, namely comfort and speed. overland, yes it's great, having to do thousands of miles on the motorways to get to such places NOT SO!

i've been looking at landcruisers and patrol's but think the boots are too small. though i stand to be corrected not actually knowing the dimensions.
oh, and i don't have a kings ransom to pay either! it's my second vehicle so about £8000 please.

any thoughts?

thanks.

Hello,
I have a 1994 landcruiser 164,000 kms (usual one careful lady owner) which can be viewed in Edinbugh this weekend. It has been modified for overland travel, but handles highway driving well. If you would like to see then email me on johnfalk41@gmail or telephone me on 07736985229
cheers
john

thanks but i'm away in the cairngorms all weekend.

As mentiond before, changing the gearing in the transfer box makes a huge difference to cruising ability - me and my mate have both changed the gearing in our T/boxes to 1.22:1 (just a matter of changing some cogs rather than having to get a whole new box) - we can now sit happily on the motorway cruising at 75mph (thats actual as per GPS, speedo was reading 82!)
My 90 was ok straight out the box like this, though we did tweek the fueling slightly on my mates 110 to give a little extra oomph up long straight uphill runs, and we have just done a 4500 mile trip round and over the alps with no probs, including off roading.

Considering 1.22 ratio swap myself

Hi everyone,

Does anybody have experience of driving a Defender with the 1.22 transfer ratio with a heavy load in the back ?? How does it cope in sand with the higher ratios whildt heavily laden ??

Andrew.

Hi. You will be ok, but you really have to have more power, like a bigger intercooler (assuming you have a Tdi/TD5).
I have fitted the Discovery transfer box to two vehicles that are on this HUBB! And they both do a lot of travelling in north Africa. From the reports I get the ratio is fine in the dunes. But both these vehicles (both 200 Tdi's) have bigger intercoolers.
If you keep you engine standard you will not have the power to pull in 5th on long hills.

Don't forget, the Discovery (which is a tiny bit more powerful) has this ratio as standard, and that does fine!!

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Matt Savage

Hi Matt,

Thanks for the reply...A bigger intercooler is another mod I have long thought about but being a conservative type felt that that more power means more heat which could mean overheating through dunes in high temps (40+) with 500 kg in the back, and that LR must have a reason for keeping the power down over the disco....The std 300tdi (now with 200km on the clock) manages but you need to thrash it.

Andrew.

Yes, if you go crazy and get as much power out of the engine you can, then it will not last long! But a bigger intercooler and good tuning will give you a nice bit of extra 'free' power. So, with the extra power you no longer need to thrash it to get the power you need. Then with a Disco transfer box you're away!!

However, if you do fit a bigger intercooler you have to make sure your radiator is in tip top condition, as the intercooler goes in front of it.

Cheers,
Matt

I have a new recon 200 tdi with new injectors, new rad, big intercooler, new LR retro fitted R380 gearbox and a new recon Ashcroft standard Defender transfer box.

I am now quite scared of my vehicle when I try to drive it. It goes much fster than my old military ratio transfer box & tired old 200 tdi setup. It seems to float along, wanting to go faster rather than having something pull it back.

I can sit at 100km on the motorway and easily go past trucks in 5th up hills - anything above 115km gets a bit wobbly though. No problems with overheating on a 10,000km test drive through Spain and Portugal in the middle of summer, but I have a new rad as well.

But t's still far too noisy to be considered desirable. Get a Toyota!

Or some noise cancelling headphones - they are great!

I am now quite scared of my vehicle...

That'll be the paint job mate. It's a common reaction.

Ch

I got one of Matt's intercoolers sent out to me and I have to say it did make quite a difference (especially once combine with slight fuelling adjustment on the inj. pump). 100 km/h was fast enough for me when loaded up! Good extra power for overtaking trucks and buses though which was a big safety plus!!! Never could sort out the noise though... I always thought of maybe rigging up a home made intercooler water spray which would probably also help with really high temperatures as well as probably offering a totally unnoticeable power gain!
Gil