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Pongo 21 Feb 2016 11:34

Read this:- it's in French, but it gives you the answer about temporary imports and the exoneration of taxation by the customs.

Admission temporaire de marchandises

If you make a declaration to the customs for second hand merchandise which will be leaving the country the chances are you will get total exoneration, but you will need to contact the French customs for their application form. See the bottom of the page for the link to the CERFA document for Customs application

Good luck.

mtncrawler 25 Feb 2016 02:07

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Originally Posted by PanEuropean (Post 531241)
No need to re-think it at all, I've done exactly that several times. The customs people look at you, your passport, your residency (and obvious ineligibility to live in the EC), and they wave you through without any difficulty or questions at all.

If all else fails, you could show them a copy of the shipping documents for your motorcycle, thus establishing beyond a shadow of a doubt that the gear you are carrying is intended to support your tour with the motorcycle that you are shipping over at the same time.

Don't be the least bit concerned.

Wanted's concern arises, I suspect, because he will not be accompanying (in person) the gear he is shipping, and perhaps also because he is shipping a significant dollar value of new equipment, which is not as obviously considered 'personal effects' as used equipment is.

The "bottom line" on all of this - in other words, the root concept that customs officials work upon - is the question "Is this stuff personal effects to support the traveller on their vacation, or is this stuff something that the shipper (or passenger) intends to leave behind in Europe, in effect importing permanently without paying the usual duty and tax that is imposed on permanent importations?"

Customs people are well aware of the importance of tourism. They also see enough people come through in the course of their career that they can pretty quickly figure out who is legit and who is trying to game the system.

Michael

Thanks for that Michael. One less thing to worry about, I sure hope to make a go of a larger trip this year (EU/UK/Iceland or AUS???…hmm)

Wanted 25 Feb 2016 12:36

Hi,

I can now shed some light on my experience, so if anyone in the future runs into this problem they will have some idea of the procedure.

Yes indeed my concern was the VAT and duty as I was not accompanying my luggage, at a value of $10,000AUD. The tax and duty would have been enormous. After contacting UK customs they pretty much had no idea which forms I had to use, my freight company suggested I fill out a C3 customs form before I sent it.

My boxes then shipped, that was pretty much the last I heard from the freight company. I tracked the AWB number they supplied and saw it was shipped with Singapore airlines to Heathrow. After a few days, it said it was now ready for pick-up at Swissport cargo services next to Heathrow. I went there, they had no idea what I was talking about, they sent me down the road to the next Swissport company. After arriving there, they too had no idea what I was talking about, but suggested I try 'World Flight Services' around the corner. I arrived there, there were a number of warehouses with shed doors all down there, with airline names above each door.

Once I found Singapore airlines, I went into the WFS reception next to Singapore airlines. They said they had my stuff, they then contacted an 'agent', I spoke to the agent on the phone, he said he would send the documents through to the office. The next hour was them doing paperwork and customs stuff, he asked me on the phone if anything was new, if there was any tobacco or alcohol etc. After an hour, they charged me 45 pound for a terminal fee, and then 35 pound as a handling fee, which worked out to another $160AUD, fml.

They also asked me to fill out another C3 form, as they didn't have the one I originally filled out. It is very important to note that these terminals charge a fee, and a storage fee typically 24 hours after your baggage arrives. I had no idea about this so had to spend $100 to change my flight to go to London much earlier, otherwise it would have cost me $60 a day in storage fees.

No VAT or duty was charged at all.

I have to admit, I did have new products in the boxes, I had just photoshopped all the dates to show they were over a year old. I don't advocate for this kind of deception but f#@$ paying VAT on that.

All in all, it was a little bit more costly with the terminal fees and having to change my flight, but once I found the place it was a relatively pain-free process.

The C3 form for the UK was only to state that I was a temporary visitor who will be removing my goods from the EC within 6 months.


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