Swiss passes 2016
 

Hoping for some advice on a trip I'm planning in June 2016, hopefully taking in the Stelvio and the Grossglockner passes amongst others. I only have a week to fit it in and wondered if anyone has done something similar. I've done a few trips to France, Spain etc a few years ago but this is a 50th birthday treat to check I'm still able :thumbup1:
Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated, oh and it would appear to be a solo effort unless anyone here fancies a jaunt:mchappy:

Firstly, welcome to the HUBB. That bit I've quoted above did make me smile as there are many of us here for whom 50 is but a distant memory, so unless some other health issues are getting in the way you can forget about age being an issue.

There and back in a week won't really be a problem (depending on what you're riding) but what might be, particularly if you're going in early June, is that some of the passes might still be snowbound. Differing levels of snowfall each year means it's hard to predict when they'll open but in a bad year it might not be until mid June.

It might be worth keeping an eye on this site - "www.AlpineRoads.com - The Best Biking Roads In The Alps" as you'll be able to get up to date info how the passes are doing.

I did a trip to Switzerland lasting just over a week a few years back. I headed down to Andermatt as quick as I could and made it my base for three days to explore several of the passes in the area.

My first motorcycle was my 50th birthday present to myself. I've ridden every county of England, every country of Europe except Moldova, Ukraine and Belarus and Brazil, Death Valley USA, the dunes of UAE, Malaysia, Japan, Morocco, Iceland, Siberia, Mongolia and Central Asia since then.

You're still able.

Enjoy the Alps.

Sorry backofbeyond, forgot to say hello prior to asking for advice. Thank you for the welcome:welcome:.
Glad to hear that the prospect of only a week to do the passes is feasible and I have duly gleaned the info about when the passes open. Looks like the end of June it is which hopefully will get me back for the National Road Rally at the beginning of July :thumbup1:

I have a Honda Blackbird, so no problem on the capability to get there.

Thanks to Tourider and Wildman for reassurance that an old giffer doesn't need to hang up his panniers just yet :D

We don't stand on ceremony all that much here but I did happen to notice it was your first post so a quick "Hi" seemed appropriate.

This is what I used last summer for 10 days in the French / Italian alps so a Blackbird should get you there and back easily enough :thumbup1:

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Now that would be a challenge, but looks in exceptional condition:thumbup1:

Yes Grossglock.er and stilvio can easily be done in one week but swiss has much more to offer such as grimsel and furka
Urlaub in der Schweiz - Motorradtouren und wandern in Europa

Susten, Grimsel, Furka, Gotthard, Nufenen and then back to the Grimsel makes a nice one day round trip. Flüela, Ofen, Stelvio, and then off to either the Italian Alps or back to Switzerland (e.g. Julier) is another nice route. It depends what you want. You easily can spend a week without leaving Switzerland and never drive a pass twice. But the Italian and Austrian alps are nice too (Dolomites are a completely different type of mountain).

Don't forget to visit the new Ace Cafe in Lucerne.

And don't go before July as the higher roads will still be closed.

June is a 'long' month in Switzerland, so far as riding the passes is concerned. As others have mentioned, you'll likely find most passes still closed (snowbound) at the beginning of June. If I recall correctly, the Stelvio is one of the higher passes, I very much doubt that it will be open during the first half of June. But, having said that, I think that the Stelvio is over-rated so far as riding pleasure is concerned.

Marc-S has provided a good list of some of the more enjoyable passes. My personal favourite is the Sustenpass.

Although you might be travelling alone from the UK to Switzerland and back, you won't be alone once you are in CH... you will find hundreds of riders at the various cafes near each end of every pass.

Some suggestions:

1) Buy your vignette (a toll sticker) at a gas station near the border before you enter Switzerland. Cost is about 40 CHF.

2) Whatever else you do, be certain to respect the speed limits within towns and villages. The Swiss cops are pretty reasonable, and tend to leave bikers alone out in the passes, on the understanding that they will strictly respect the speed limits within the villages. If you hoon your way through the villages, you will be shunned by others at the cafes, and will go broke paying the photo-radar tickets.

3) Get a GPS that has the capability to warn you of photo-radar locations, and be sure you have an up-to-date database of photo-radar locations in it. By 'up-to-date', I mean no more than a week or two old.

4) Switzerland is not cheap, primarily because the Swiss Franc is very strong against other currencies at the moment. If you want to save money, stay at the youth hostels - they welcome people of all ages, and are very clean and well run.

Michael

I thought most were open by June, at least that what I'm hoping as I've booked off middle of June.

Thank you so much Ta-rider, marc-s and Michael. This is exactly what I was looking for to help my planning, Looks like 19th of June for leaving so fingers crossed I'll be ok for the high passes. I'll be looking towards factoring in the Furka, Grimsel and Sustenpass then. :D

Hello

Well, those days have long gone.
Weekend or Weekday, if the weather is good the hunt is on.
The politicians put a number $ in the budget and the cops love to overachieve that.
It is in their character otherwise they hadn't become cops.


80 km/h is the limit, up to 100 km/h on the odometer is payable.
140 km/h and you get B&B by the cops.


But, the mountains are to beautiful to speed thru them anyway.

If you do Susten/Grimsel/Furka and then Grossglockner you will regret to have paid that much on the entrance fee.

19th of June should work.
If the winter isn't coming back the passes may open in April.
Me 19th of december 2015 Gurnigel 1594 m alt.
Nice place if you have more time.

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sushi

I think you should not have any problems riding the 'best' passes at that time of year. Perhaps a small number of the very high ones might still be closed, but in my experience (I've ridden just about all of them over the past 15 years), the really high passes can sometimes be the most boring passes - not much vegetation, not much human settlement, just rocks and scree and (it never fails) someone towing a large caravan attached to a small car with a Dutch licence plate, plugging up the whole pass for everyone else.

In the week before you leave, study the Swiss weather reports to learn what the temperatures are at the various elevations in the mountains. The Swiss meteo office does a good job of publishing temperature and moisture (rain, fog, snow, etc.) info for various elevations in the mountains. With that information, you can then pack appropriately. FOR SURE, you will want to be able to layer clothing on and off as you go up from the 'mittleland' (average elevation about 1,400 feet) into the passes, which can be as high as 6,000+ feet.

You will get a temperature drop of 2°C per 1,000 feet just as a 'standard, baseline' temperature drop, but frequently you will encounter katabatic airflows down the mountain valleys that come from snow-covered areas higher up, and the combined result of all this can be 10°C temperatures up in the passes when it is 25°C at the start and end of the pass.

Michael