Which Route from Dubai to Turkey?
 

I'm planning a solo trip from Dubai to the UK and want to travel via Turkey. It seems there are 2 broad options of routes. The most direct is north through Iran and into Turkey and the longer, more circular is south east via Oman and Yemen, through Saudi Arabia and through Jordan and Syria.

I'd really welcome any experiences that anyone can share about the relative merits of these two options. I am also very open to any alternative routes that anyone can suggest?

I am also looking for any practical tips about the requirements of a carnet de passage in these Middle Eastern countries, is it possible to get bike insurance for the whole of my trip (including onwards to the UK through Turkey and Eastern Europe), what are the issues with getting visas for some of these countries and has anyone experienced any difficulties in solo motorbike travel through these countries???

Cheers and thanks in advance for your assistance!

I would suggest you take the ferry into Iran and go that way. The Saudi option is just too hard (unless you have six months preparation time). You could do Oman-Yemen and across to Djibouti but now you are talking serious time.

You will need a carnet for Iran. Visas for Iran and Turkey are easy from the UAE. You will have to pay a nominal fee at each border for insurance.

cheers
Brett

Dave
I’ve done the trip twice. Once via Iran and once from Amman with the bikes sent through Saudi on a lorry.

If you think I might be able to answer any questions feel free to e-mail me and I’ll give you a contact number.

Regards,
Stephan

Getting through Saudi
 

Hey Stephan, I would be very interested in how you organised, and how much it cost, getting the bike trucked through Saudi. I'm still not having any luck with a visa.

cheers
Brett

Keep on truckin'
 

Brett
We also gave up on the Saudi visas and that’s why we trucked them across.

We used a freighting agent called Gulf 2000 opposite the Hyatt Regency who charged quite a lot (c. Dh2,400 per bike I think) and paid the driver very little. Then, the bikes were ridden onto a lorry at the truck area near the Hyatt Regency.

There were also unexpected ‘hidden costs’ requested by the lorry driver on arrival in Jordan, e.g. border fees from entering Saudi. However, the bikes were damaged as they hadn’t been well secured so, in agreement with the driver, we never paid the unexpected fees as compensation.

Getting the bike out of Amman customs is basically straightforward.

I still have a mobile number for the driver if you’re interested. You might be able to cut out the middleman.

Send me an e-mail if you want phone numbers or to call me.

Cheers, Stephan

Dubai to Turkey
 

Hi RtwWtr
Have you done your trip yet?
I'm planning something similar.
I'm currently in Doha working on the Asia games till mid/late Jan 07. Planning to get the bike out here, do the transit like through Saudi to UAE and spend some time in Dubia/Oman before getting a ferry to Iran.
Be interesting to hear from you or BrettUAE (or anyone else)
Cheers.
John

Not sure what your enquiry is... It's certainly all doable. Worth checking with the Saudis to make sure they'll give you a transit visa. Shouldn't be a problem as it's only a short distance, but then the Saudis don't think the way the rest of us do. Drop me line when you know what date you'll be in Abu Dhabi and we'll do beers.

Hi Brett. Thanks. Will happily arrange for a beer!

The dry Emirate...
 

And contrary to popular belief, there is beer in Sharjah too. :)
Stephan

what are the problems with saudi? this was my back up fr getting to india if I couldn't get through iran so would be interested to know any hurdles may have to jump.
cheers

Saudi Issues
 

Lots of vehicles drive from the UAE through Saudi Arabia to Jordan and Syria. They are Arab expatriate workers returning home and traders and it’s a well traveled route.

If you are traveling by car (e.g. 4WD) you should be able to get a transit visa although security issues may cloud the issue. The Saudis don’t want mishaps to non-Arab expats traveling through. That said, a colleague of mine got a Saudi visa a couple of years ago to take his Land Rover and family back to the UK and return to the UAE via Saudi Arabia.

The real difficulty is for motorcycles. The Saudis just do not seem happy to let bikes travel through. It could be that they know how mad the car driving is on the pipeline road through to Jordan!

Another issue I learned from personal experience is don’t bother applying unless you have two opposing blank pages in your current passport. Apparently those treasured Saudi visas require a lot of space.

ok, thanks for that. I might be travelling the other way to mirbat to ship to india, if I can't get iranian visa. hopefully won't be necessary. I'm a cage driver so hopefully shuldn't be any major dramas. is it possible to get a visa en route or does it have to be done before leaving the UK?

Couldn't say for sure but I'd recommend applying in your country of residence.

Any news
 

All

Any update on trip?
Have anyone ferry time table/cost/any info for Iran UAE crossing?
Planning to do oposite way trip - Slovenia - UAE - thru Iran - in October / November 2007


br Dane

Yes, it's in the shipping database on the left. The old info in there is still valid, we crossed a few months ago. Timetables seem to change all the time, so just roll up in Bandar Abbas. There should be 2 sailings per week, two days apart.

Trucking the bike from Amman to Abu Dhabi
 

Thought I might share this shipping info for when I trucked the bike through Saudi. I've used these guys twice now.

The company I used in Amman was called Ekhmyyis Transport. These guys specialise in trucking fresh fruit and vehicles all over the middle east and Europe. The cost was AED1040 (about US$280), with half paid in Amman and the other half paid in Abu Dhabi on delivery. The guys were very helpful and delivered the bike without a scratch. The numbers are Tel: 06 4744545 Mob 07 95553012, address Al-hizam St Amman (near the customs clearing area in east Amman). Their Sharjah (UAE) office number is 06 5537774, Mob 0505949639 (I think this was the truck driver who didn't speak any English).

On delivery, I had to meet the truck in the dead of night on the Saudi-Dubai highway (which bypasses Abu Dhabi) to unload. Bit odd but no dramas. The company were across the Saudi border thing and made sure they had all the right paperwork (including my carnet). The whole thing only took three days which really surprised me (I expected a few weeks).

cheers
Brett

Planning the same trip
 

I was planning the same trip. Dubai to Iran and then across to turkey and UK.

I am going for business to Dubai frequently and have many friends based in town.
Do you know how easy it would be to buy a bike (new or good condition), preferably a GS1200, would it be cheaper and insurable from Dubai all the way through ?

Cheers, OSS

Need residency to buy a bike
 

Hi OSS


To buy a bike legally here you will have to have residency. To ride one legally here, if you are not resident, you can only ride one you've hired. Sorry but buying one and riding it out of the country would be impossible unless you first had residency.


The only way which might be possible - and I'm not confident - is to have a friend who is resident buy one for you, and give you documents to say you have permission to ride it. That 's permissible if you are ALSO resident but technically, not for a non resident. You might get away with it but I very much doubt it. The border controls here are not slack by any means and at worst you could find yourself in heaps of trouble, your mate who bought the bike in trouble, and the bike impounded... Sorry!

I'm pretty sure you can buy a vehicle without residency, but you can't register it locally.

What might be possible is to buy the vehicle and put it in your name on the transfer certificate (without registration) and then change that to an export certificate and get some export plates for it.

You could then ride it back to wherever you want on the export plates and export certificate. It doesn't look too official though, there is no registration card or anything. You are supposed to surrender the export plates after 14 (or maybe it's 28) days and I know plenty of people don't but I'm not aware of the repercussions for not doing that.

Hi Oss, next week I will take possession of the first Africa Twin DCT here in Dubai. The idea is to plan a trip from Dubai through Iran to Baku, hopefully sometime in 2017. I am an entrepreneur in Dubai so flexible. I may not even do it all in one go but may cut the total trip up and fly back an forth from Iran to Dubai. I have no idea what is needed; will start with the Carnet de Passage (never heard of it before), Insurances and visa requirements. (I am Dutch).

Dubai - south Africa
 

Hi guys

As a matter of interest, I'm going to try to ride Dubai - Salalah - Dhow to Berbera - Ethiopia - South Africa next year.

Will update. Anybody wanting to share info etc, give me a shout.
Lm

Dubai - south Africa
 

Hi guys

As a matter of interest, I'm going to try to ride Dubai - Salalah - Dhow to Berbera - Ethiopia - South Africa next year.

Will update. Anybody wanting to share info etc, give me a shout.
Lm