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Russell Dykes 22 Mar 2016 12:12

Anybody around the High Atlas
 
An update on the weather would be gratefully received going next week and the weather looks snowy this week ? Thank you

fcaeiro 22 Mar 2016 21:50

Me 2 beginning of April so updates on the following are welcome :
R306 r307 around
Beninelal - imilchil
Imilchil - mildelt via cirque du Jaffar
704 dades agoudal
703 agoudal todra

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Peter Girling 23 Mar 2016 00:12

On the ferry to Spain. Will let you know from the Atlas next week.

Happy trails,

Peter

Tim Cullis 23 Mar 2016 00:27

Likely to be as much as 25cm snow on Wednesday in central High Atlas but mostly gone by Saturday.

Bit of a dusting around Azrou/Ifrane in the Middle Atlas, again should be gone in a couple of days.

Tim Cullis 23 Mar 2016 10:48

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Snow arrived earlier than expected, this was yesterday on the Tichka pass (photo by Nourredine of http://www.loc2roues.com )

Russell Dykes 23 Mar 2016 12:03

Thank you for the heads up
 
bier

Russell Dykes 23 Mar 2016 12:05

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Originally Posted by Peter Girling (Post 533865)
On the ferry to Spain. Will let you know from the Atlas next week.

Happy trails,

Peter

Peter thank will look out for the up-dates, hope to meet you one day, regards, Libby & Russ

TheWarden 23 Mar 2016 14:18

Very jealous, I need to do a spring trip again soon been too many years since I saw snow in the Atlas :(

Hope your trips are going well Libby and Russ (its Mark in the black Land Cruiser BTW)

Russell Dykes 23 Mar 2016 16:02

Tours
 
Hi Mark, yes all good thank you, both full time on the tours and training now , this trip is a bit different . no camping Hotels / Auberges all the way, testing the market to see how it goes.
We are using a Jeep Wrangler CRD AEV for this trip and hopefully all our Overlanding Treks . Looking forward to seeing how it goes, the Defender has done 60,000 in two years so thought we needed to share the work out.
Libby and Russ

Benny_76 24 Mar 2016 21:40

I done the cirque route (MH1 I think?) from Midelt to Imilchil about 7 days ago, leaving Midelt it looks like they are building a motorway to the start of the route! Lots of roadworks going on there, looks like the approach will be tarmac soon.

There was one muddy rutted section before the cirque, required a bit of labour to fill in the puddles and ruts to get through, once through that it was plain sailing until the track hits the bottom of the valley; we were faced with a stretch of 50cm deep snow about 40-50 foot long - lots of aggressive begging from locals at this point, not boys but young men, climbing all over the truck trying to get into the Windows etc. It was just my wife and myself so it was a little intimidating, but if there are a few blokes present I wouldn't worry too much.

As we climbed up into the forest there was lots of thick mud and we had to use the waffle boards on a couple of occasions but managed to get through ok. After that the rest is ok.

The last few days we've been in Chefchaouen and the rain has been non stop for 3 days, I can imagine such weather has turned to snow over the mountains so conditions may have worsened?

Anyhow, best of luck old chap, I'm sure you'll be fine, this route was my very first excursion off road in a 4x4 (Toyota Hilux, virtually stock apart from AT tyres) and I'd do it again tomorrow if I could, so if you're experienced I guess it'll be fairly straight forward.

Cheers,

Benny.

Peter Girling 24 Mar 2016 22:41

Coming through Spain today - loads more snow than usual at this time of year in the Picos. Should be in the Atlas on Monday so will post a heads up.
Happy trails,
Peter

Russell Dykes 24 Mar 2016 23:24

Travelling to Morocco
 
Had an email today from Brittany Ferries to say our ferry is sailing midnight Friday instead of 8.15 Saturday, to stay in front of a weather front!

Russell Dykes 24 Mar 2016 23:26

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Originally Posted by Benny_76 (Post 534010)
I done the cirque route (MH1 I think?) from Midelt to Imilchil about 7 days ago, leaving Midelt it looks like they are building a motorway to the start of the route! Lots of roadworks going on there, looks like the approach will be tarmac soon.

There was one muddy rutted section before the cirque, required a bit of labour to fill in the puddles and ruts to get through, once through that it was plain sailing until the track hits the bottom of the valley; we were faced with a stretch of 50cm deep snow about 40-50 foot long - lots of aggressive begging from locals at this point, not boys but young men, climbing all over the truck trying to get into the Windows etc. It was just my wife and myself so it was a little intimidating, but if there are a few blokes present I wouldn't worry too much.

As we climbed up into the forest there was lots of thick mud and we had to use the waffle boards on a couple of occasions but managed to get through ok. After that the rest is ok.

The last few days we've been in Chefchaouen and the rain has been non stop for 3 days, I can imagine such weather has turned to snow over the mountains so conditions may have worsened?

Anyhow, best of luck old chap, I'm sure you'll be fine, this route was my very first excursion off road in a 4x4 (Toyota Hilux, virtually stock apart from AT tyres) and I'd do it again tomorrow if I could, so if you're experienced I guess it'll be fairly straight forward.

Cheers,

Benny.

Cheers Benny, we live 12 miles south of York should meet up for beer , we are prepared for all kinds of weather but you have to be careful enjoy your trip Russ

Tim Cullis 24 Mar 2016 23:49

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Originally Posted by Benny_76 (Post 534010)
...we were faced with a stretch of 50cm deep snow about 40-50 foot long - lots of aggressive begging from locals at this point, not boys but young men, climbing all over the truck trying to get into the Windows etc. It was just my wife and myself so it was a little intimidating, but if there are a few blokes present I wouldn't worry too much...

The Cirque de Jaffar is the only place in Morocco where I've encountered such problems, see Bandits on the Cirque de Jaffar.

fcaeiro 25 Mar 2016 00:26

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Originally Posted by Benny_76 (Post 534010)
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There was one muddy rutted section before the cirque, required a bit of labour to fill in the puddles and ruts to get through, once through that it was plain sailing until the track hits the bottom of the valley; we were faced with a stretch of 50cm deep snow about 40-50 foot long - lots of aggressive begging from locals at this point, not boys but young men, climbing all over the truck trying to get into the Windows etc. It was just my wife and myself so it was a little intimidating, but if there are a few blokes present I wouldn't worry too much.


Benny doable in motorcycle ?
Im coming from imilchil and thinking on going trough the gorges or as Tim call them the jaws .
Lots of water ?
If not I will continue by the main road to Ait Omghar -> midelt .

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Benny_76 25 Mar 2016 11:11

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Originally Posted by fcaeiro (Post 534032)
Benny doable in motorcycle ?
Im coming from imilchil and thinking on going trough the gorges or as Tim call them the jaws .
Lots of water ?
If not I will continue by the main road to Ait Omghar -> midelt .

Thanks


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I didn't go through the jaws so can't comment, we crossed some big muddy sections which may give you trouble on a motorcycle, especially if you are fully loaded on a large machine. I have an XT1200 and definitely wouldn't have made it through on that! Safe travels.

fcaeiro 25 Mar 2016 13:55

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Originally Posted by Benny_76 (Post 534052)
I didn't go through the jaws so can't comment, we crossed some big muddy sections which may give you trouble on a motorcycle, especially if you are fully loaded on a large machine. I have an XT1200 and definitely wouldn't have made it through on that! Safe travels.


Thanks benny.
The biggest bike will be Ktm990 all others we will be smaller, gs800 and Ktm690 .
Did you take pics that you can share ?




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Benny_76 25 Mar 2016 18:12

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Originally Posted by fcaeiro (Post 534060)
Thanks benny.
The biggest bike will be Ktm990 all others we will be smaller, gs800 and Ktm690 .
Did you take pics that you can share ?




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Hi, I haven't got any pics I can share unfortunately, I have loads of GoPro footage but I'm still on the road at the moment so can't edit it etc. If you are in a group then I'd give it a go! I thought you might be solo so I was a bit hesitant to recommend taking the route but you will be able to help each other through any difficult sections. Have fun and good luck!

Benny_76 25 Mar 2016 18:36

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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 534025)
The Cirque de Jaffar is the only place in Morocco where I've encountered such problems, see Bandits on the Cirque de Jaffar.

Hi Tim, I read about your incident a while ago and I did wonder if it was the same lot. This was a step up from the usual hassle, a couple of shepards came down from the hill and joined in, I was out of the vehicle at this point and one of them was constantly trying to get behind me, he had a pick axe slung over his shoulder and I couldn't help thinking he was going to use it on me.

One of the guys was crazed, to describe him as 'feral' would be a compliment, he hung on to the vehicle for ages. It's a lonely place to get involved with such behaviour that's for sure.

Tim Cullis 25 Mar 2016 18:54

Most adult Moroccans are decent people but teenagers and young men can be a pain in the ass.

Feral sounds right. My incident was 8km to the west, so could easily be the same group. I find behaviour and scams in Morocco tends to be very localised. One bad egg infects the whole village. Kick one and they all limp.

I did think of going back with some very big mates who would hang back a km or so and then bring them in with walky talkies (and tyre irons). Started daydreaming about immobilising them with cable ties as handcuffs, dropping their pants and spraying their nether regions with chilli spray. Then take lots of incriminating photos, nick their ID cards, and leave them tied up for the police.

<revenge daydream over>

IanC 26 Mar 2016 19:51

Came over MH2 south from El Kebab via Imilchil on Thursday. Police told us impassable, but it was OK. Locals advised better in afternoon when snow-melt is not frozen on road, though it was -3.5ยบ at the highest point, and a lot of snow on north side (not on the road).


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