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uknomad 20 Jan 2019 18:07

Thanks Tim, I did wonder how they were going to input the data, like you say, could be more of a queue than normal.


If they didn't check your V5, that's worrying, and I suppose the onus is on the owner/driver to check the details before they leave customs.


Safe travels.

TheWarden 20 Jan 2019 18:10

I think a lot depends on what day and time of day you hit customs. Some contacts of mine reported the process was very smooth when they went through a couple of week ago


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PanEuropean 21 Jan 2019 00:26

Below is a machine-translated (Google Translate) English language text of the contents of pages 1 and 2 of the PDF posted directly above.

Rabat, December 28, 2018
CIRCULAR N ° 5889/313
Subject: Temporary admission of private means of transport for non-resident travelers.
Ref. : - Order of the Minister of Finance No. 1319-77 of 17 Kada 1397 (October 31, 1977) relating to customs declarations other than summary.

Circulars No 4418/322 of 17/05/1996 and No 4487/311 of 11/07/1997.

Under Articles 145 and 146 of the Customs and Excise Code, persons having their habitual residence abroad may be allowed to import their means of transport for private use under the temporary admission procedure.

To do this, the beneficiaries are required to subscribe to the written declarations D 16bis and D 16ter models for motor vehicles and D 716 for pleasure boats and other watercraft.

As part of the strategic orientation of this administration aimed at facilitating Customs clearance, it was decided to exempt these travelers from subscribing to the aforementioned declarations. This exemption measure was the subject of Order No. 3822-18 of 19/12/2018, in the process of publication, amending the order referred to in the reference.

Thus, as from 1 January 2019, the temporary admission of means of transport imported by persons having their habitual residence abroad, will be supported on the computer system BADR, on the basis of the indications provided by the traveler for the identification of his means of transport.

A printed document of the system, conforming to one of the models in the appendix, is issued to the interested parties to present it on the occasion of any inspection on the national territory.

At the time of the regularization of the temporary admission, by export or by release for consumption (customs clearance) or in case of transfer, the customs service concerned annotates the aforementioned document and returns it to its holder as proof of regularization.

For greater certainty, declarations made before January 1, 2019, on forms D16bis, D16ter and D716 will remain valid until expiry of their period of validity.

Consequently, all the previous provisions relating to the aforementioned declarative carriers are hereby repealed.

Any difficulties of application must be reported to the central administration.

PanEuropean 21 Jan 2019 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 594797)
My concern when landing at Tanger last Monday was how long the whole process took.

Tim, were any customs or immigration procedures still carried out on the ferry boat by Moroccan officials prior to docking?

I will be taking the ferry next Saturday, and want to be prepared.

Michael

priffe 21 Jan 2019 03:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 594797)
My concern when landing at Tanger last Monday was how long the whole process took. As usual only one person was (slowly) doing anything, everyone else standing around. In busy periods this could be a disaster.

With the old system the owner completed all the computer information, all the douanes had to do was to check the VIN number. Now the douanes have to finger peck all the information into the system and the VIN wasn't even checked.

Another good reason to try a less busy point of entry then, like Tanger Ville or Nador

TheWarden 21 Jan 2019 09:43

The official document had been linked twice before...………………………….:innocent:

Toyark 21 Jan 2019 09:52

C'est la vie les petits!:)

africanik 30 Jan 2019 18:12

Regarding how the suppression of D16ter relates to the problem of entering with several bikes on a van/trailer driven by a single person (see post #12 above), for who's interested I posted a reply from the Administration Centrale in the relevant thread:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...3-3#post595325

ogri.bowser 24 Feb 2019 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanEuropean (Post 594693)
That's actually a very common limitation worldwide for vehicles that have been imported into another country for tourism purposes.
If another person - especially a local citizen - is using the vehicle,

Just a comment on this, it is against the law in EVERY country in Europe, probably else where but certainly in Europe, for a resident of a country to drive a foreign registered vehicle.

e.g. I live in UK my son Germany, he rides his bike to uk I commit offence if I drive it. They can be seized. He is fine despite being uk citizen and uk licence holder it is you country of residence that is the issue.

Only exceptions are company vehicles, and those being permanently imported.
So I buy a bike in Germany get export plates, I can drive to UK and in UK I can take it home to and from mot or to get work done etc but not otherwise.

Tim Cullis 24 Feb 2019 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWarden (Post 593849)
Possibly, at customs you only get 1 copy of the paperwork so you have nothing to get stamped on exit. I suspect you’ll get a “receipt” of sorts on exit.

The original copy is returned to you when you leave with the appropriate exit stamps on it to prove you re-exported the vehicle.

uknomad 11 Mar 2019 23:30

As Tim said, a single bit of A4 to carry around.



Though I hear from April, a new "card" system will replace it. No further details.

TheWarden 11 Mar 2019 23:33

D16ter No Longer in Use
 
That’s probably the card refered to in the earlier announcement or in the pdf file. There was a sample a5 version detailed.


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Tim Cullis 13 Mar 2019 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by priffe (Post 594825)
Another good reason to try a less busy point of entry then, like Tanger Ville or Nador

It WAS Tanger Ville. :)

Chris Scott 30 Mar 2019 10:03

First off the ferry
Hand over passport and logbook to customs man
Brings back a white, credit-card sized TVIP 10 mins later for me and two other bikes. That's it. Presume I hand it back on leaving.
No more triplicate keyboard stabbing.

So - as fast as can be expected if no huge queues

Tuaregsr 24 Nov 2019 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanEuropean (Post 594818)
Tim, were any customs or immigration procedures still carried out on the ferry boat by Moroccan officials prior to docking?

I will be taking the ferry next Saturday, and want to be prepared.

Michael

Sorry, I didn't understand if with the new procedure there is still something to do on the ferry before getting off with the customs worker.


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