D16ter No Longer in Use
 

The old D16ter temporary importation system for vehicles has been discontinued from the 1st Jan 2019

[url=http://www.douane.gov.ma/web/16/45?fbclid=IwAR0tBy_0VMZnbv2wsmgwOA3JkNYQpCTU9_KP3k JraWRTNQ0WJCCGbtg9VNU#http://www.douane.gov.ma/d16ter/]Administration des Douanes et Imp

Well the site seems to have cut off 50% of my previous post :thumbdown:

link to the circular
ADMINISTRATION DES DOUANES Et Impôts indirects

the bottom one is relevant

Basically D16ter replaced with new BADR computer system, you can no longer complete and print a D16 online. Current D16's are valid until they expire or the vehicle leaves the country

Well spotted, could be a new challenge. :)


[url=http://www.douane.gov.ma/web/16/45#http://www.douane.gov.ma/d16ter/]Administration des Douanes et Imp


OK, apparently, you fill out a form in Tangier Med on arrival.

Turn up at customs present you paperwork for the vehicle and passport.

Customs will then complete the process and issue you either an A4 form or a smaller Card version.

You can also now check the importation status online (I’ll try and find a link)


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So are we presuming the online form-in-advance option is dropped for good?

D16ter No Longer in Use
 

Possibly, at customs you only get 1 copy of the paperwork so you have nothing to get stamped on exit. I suspect you’ll get a “receipt” of sorts on exit


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Possible new webportal (links not working)

ADMINISTRATION DES DOUANES Et Impôts indirects

Link for Checking import status
ADMINISTRATION DES DOUANES ET IMPÔTS INDIRECTS

A response from the Moroccan customs...

In order to facilitate the passage through customs, it was decided to exempt travelers to the subscription of D16 ter declarations from 01/01/2019.
From now on, the temporary admission of the means of transport imported by the persons having their habitual residence abroad, will be taken care of on the BADR system by the customs agent, on the basis of the indications provided by the traveler for the identification. of his means of transport. Here is the link to the circular circulated on this subject on the Administration's website

(The link doesn’t work as its on their Intranet)

I have no idea what all this means in practice but will be entering Morocco in ten days time and will report back if someone else hasn’t already done so.

See my earlier post Tim.

Arrive at customs, present registration and passport. They then give you either A4 or a card with the details on.

Friends on a first time trip to Morocco entered on the 1st and said it’s very straight forward.

What happens on exit is still unknown.

This is what the A4 version look like


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Tim; Thanks, I hope to be there not long after. According to "Carlos's" office, it's a very simple process all done in Customs, as "the warden" mentioned, just need your vehicle docs as normal, however what form/part of form etc you need to keep, if any for the exit, they couldn't really answer.



The Warden; hope that isn't the paperwork your friends need on exit, black marker pen may not be helpful. :)

Just trying to mask personal info [emoji57]


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Direct link to the circulaire (as the link in #2 no longer includes it):
http://www.douane.gov.ma/dms/loadDoc...cumentId=77570

It says (bottom of first page) that at exit one gets an annotation on the receipt that is issued at the entry. So it's practically the same as before - the receipt is equivalent to the white sheet of the D16ter. The other two copies (the one for the entry office and the one to be kept and given back to the exit office) are no longer needed given that everything stored in the system anyhow.

In principle it makes a lot of sense and also makes the thing marginally simpler (no worry of loosing the exit copy, which was a major problem; no hassle from "helpers" at the border that insist on filling the form for you)...

But there's a possible side effect: entering with a van or car+trailer loaded with a few bikes used to be possible (ie tolerated) for a single person by annotating the D16ter of the car or van with the list of bikes (see
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...3-3#post536236). This was a sort of "trick" because (in my understanding) only one vehicle per person could be filed in their database; but by listing additional ones in the D16ter the officer at exit could immediately see if any vehicle had been left behind. This has been working for me for a number of years in a row with just some extra discussion. I assume it will be harder now, since there is no paper that must be given back at exit (the receipt paper, being just a receipt, is something we can pretend to have lost without consequences).
Unless, of course, officers will be allowed to file several vehicles in the system for the same person. Any clarification on this would be very useful...

Thanks. It wasn't clear to me that you were writing of your experience with the new system.

To be clear
 

From the horses' mouth :Beach:

Thanks Bertrand. :thumbup1:



And in a poor French/English google translate.



I contacted the Director General of the Moroccan Douanes.
For info, below her answer:

Hello,
In response to your request, I wish to inform you of the date of the 01/09/2019 declaration of d’AT D16ter was deleted and replaced by verbal declaration of the traveler at the moment of entry and whose indications will be entered over on the computer system from this Administration.
For the needs of counterfeit Circulation of means of transport,
customs service prints and defends the traveler a TA document.

You are most welcome Uknomad but.... errmmm..... NOT "counterfeit" !!! :eek3: ...... :laugh:
The custom agent will print and give you a document d'AT !


p.s Mods- can you please edit Stevens' image in post #9 as his details are visible- I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

:oops2:bier

The dangers of googling stuff! :Beach:

So what do the experts think of the 2 bullet point at the bottom of the D16 replacement??


I'd translate it but we don't seem to be doing that at the moment doh

Google again. doh:rofl:


- The re-export of the vehicle must take place within the
validity period indicated above.

- Driving a vehicle in Morocco by a third person is a
punishable offense except where authorized by the regulations
in force.

- You can consult the customs situation of your vehicle on the
website of administration

• No driving of the vehicle by a third party.
  
• You can check the customs status of your vehicle via the website.

Happy trails,

Peter

I can see that 3rd party issue catching a few people out. Wonder what the regulations say?

AFAIK, insurance bought at the border only covers one person, as well.

Peter

Also that QR code is scannable, which would seem to suggest the ability to scan the doc whenever is necessary, not just on exit. Mmmhhh.?c? :D

I'd be really interested to know more about that also ! I'll be going in Morocco with friends and 2 vehicles are in my name : The bike I'm riding and the car I'm lending to a friend... So he will be driving this car thru all the country. I've got a green card that covers Morocco for all vehicles and all drivers.

I'm sure with a bit of bargaining it will be ok, but it will help a lot to know exactly what the law says.

I'll try to find an answer to that and let you know if I find anything, but if you de before me, please share !

Well assuming 'the regulations in force' are unchanged, get your friend to import the car with your permission (DIY docs attesting to this will help).
Driving/riding someone else's vehicle with their permission (and loads of impressive docs to back it up) has always been possible.
Never had a problem when going it.
In your case it's even better as you are there.

As africanik said, it's just a TVIP, just like it always was. Sure beats a carnet.
So they can potentially scan a QR. Assuming you're legit, let them scan away.
In all my years, other than on exit, I've maybe had to show my TVIP once to a bored cop down south.

Did it before they removed the D16Ter, and I will definitely do it again in a few weeks. I'm willing to do it properly, but if I can't have official info on how to, I'll do it anyway : Worst case scenario will be an honest mistake and I'll be with my friend, so no worries.

That's actually a very common limitation worldwide for vehicles that have been imported into another country for tourism purposes.

Many years ago, I loaned my Canadian plated ST 1100 motorcycle to a German friend of mine to ride for a weekend in Germany. The German traffic police stopped him, and he had to pay full import duty (about €2,000) in order to not have the bike confiscated.

The rationale is that when a country permits a bona fide tourist to temporarily import their vehicle without fees, duties, or taxes, the importation is permitted only on the understanding that the tourist themself will be using the vehicle for touristic (non-commercial) purposes. If another person - especially a local citizen - is using the vehicle, then it is no longer being used for the purpose (tourism) that was claimed when the vehicle was admitted.

Having said that, if, for example, a group of tourists were riding together and simply swapped motos amongst themselves while travelling as a group, or if the rider who imported the bike swapped positions with the pillion passenger, I doubt very much if police or customs agents anywhere would object. The key issue seems to be that the owner/importer needs to be with the vehicle at all times when it is in use.

This comment addresses the question of "no third party drivers" from only the perspective of customs protocol. Whether or not the insurance someone has obtained permits a third party to operate the vehicle is another question altogether.

Michael

I have been told several times that the border insurance covers the vehicle. By implication for any driver. Definitely for my wife.

My concern when landing at Tanger last Monday was how long the whole process took. As usual only one person was (slowly) doing anything, everyone else standing around. In busy periods this could be a disaster.

With the old system the owner completed all the computer information, all the douanes had to do was to check the VIN number. Now the douanes have to finger peck all the information into the system and the VIN wasn't even checked.

Thanks Tim, I did wonder how they were going to input the data, like you say, could be more of a queue than normal.


If they didn't check your V5, that's worrying, and I suppose the onus is on the owner/driver to check the details before they leave customs.


Safe travels.

I think a lot depends on what day and time of day you hit customs. Some contacts of mine reported the process was very smooth when they went through a couple of week ago


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Below is a machine-translated (Google Translate) English language text of the contents of pages 1 and 2 of the PDF posted directly above.

Rabat, December 28, 2018
CIRCULAR N ° 5889/313
Subject: Temporary admission of private means of transport for non-resident travelers.
Ref. : - Order of the Minister of Finance No. 1319-77 of 17 Kada 1397 (October 31, 1977) relating to customs declarations other than summary.

Circulars No 4418/322 of 17/05/1996 and No 4487/311 of 11/07/1997.

Under Articles 145 and 146 of the Customs and Excise Code, persons having their habitual residence abroad may be allowed to import their means of transport for private use under the temporary admission procedure.

To do this, the beneficiaries are required to subscribe to the written declarations D 16bis and D 16ter models for motor vehicles and D 716 for pleasure boats and other watercraft.

As part of the strategic orientation of this administration aimed at facilitating Customs clearance, it was decided to exempt these travelers from subscribing to the aforementioned declarations. This exemption measure was the subject of Order No. 3822-18 of 19/12/2018, in the process of publication, amending the order referred to in the reference.

Thus, as from 1 January 2019, the temporary admission of means of transport imported by persons having their habitual residence abroad, will be supported on the computer system BADR, on the basis of the indications provided by the traveler for the identification of his means of transport.

A printed document of the system, conforming to one of the models in the appendix, is issued to the interested parties to present it on the occasion of any inspection on the national territory.

At the time of the regularization of the temporary admission, by export or by release for consumption (customs clearance) or in case of transfer, the customs service concerned annotates the aforementioned document and returns it to its holder as proof of regularization.

For greater certainty, declarations made before January 1, 2019, on forms D16bis, D16ter and D716 will remain valid until expiry of their period of validity.

Consequently, all the previous provisions relating to the aforementioned declarative carriers are hereby repealed.

Any difficulties of application must be reported to the central administration.

Tim, were any customs or immigration procedures still carried out on the ferry boat by Moroccan officials prior to docking?

I will be taking the ferry next Saturday, and want to be prepared.

Michael

Another good reason to try a less busy point of entry then, like Tanger Ville or Nador

The official document had been linked twice before...………………………….:innocent:

C'est la vie les petits!:)

Regarding how the suppression of D16ter relates to the problem of entering with several bikes on a van/trailer driven by a single person (see post #12 above), for who's interested I posted a reply from the Administration Centrale in the relevant thread:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...3-3#post595325

Just a comment on this, it is against the law in EVERY country in Europe, probably else where but certainly in Europe, for a resident of a country to drive a foreign registered vehicle.

e.g. I live in UK my son Germany, he rides his bike to uk I commit offence if I drive it. They can be seized. He is fine despite being uk citizen and uk licence holder it is you country of residence that is the issue.

Only exceptions are company vehicles, and those being permanently imported.
So I buy a bike in Germany get export plates, I can drive to UK and in UK I can take it home to and from mot or to get work done etc but not otherwise.

The original copy is returned to you when you leave with the appropriate exit stamps on it to prove you re-exported the vehicle.

As Tim said, a single bit of A4 to carry around.



Though I hear from April, a new "card" system will replace it. No further details.

D16ter No Longer in Use
 

That’s probably the card refered to in the earlier announcement or in the pdf file. There was a sample a5 version detailed.


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It WAS Tanger Ville. :)

First off the ferry
Hand over passport and logbook to customs man
Brings back a white, credit-card sized TVIP 10 mins later for me and two other bikes. That's it. Presume I hand it back on leaving.
No more triplicate keyboard stabbing.

So - as fast as can be expected if no huge queues

Sorry, I didn't understand if with the new procedure there is still something to do on the ferry before getting off with the customs worker.