Hi all, am currently in morocco taking a couple of friends to show them around this beautiful country. We are traveling with rented car, not 4x4 and u would like to know if someone has latest updates of road conditions of the following:
Tata-tafraoute through igherm
Zagora - foum zguid (n12)
Taroudant - marrakesh through tizin test
Rissani - nkob (n12)

I know there has been a lot of posts regarding these routes but just wanted to make a check again. Needless to say, we want to drive on sealed roads only

Thanx in advance

To confirm what Peter was saying above, MS5 is sealed all the way from Zagora to Foum. Zguid, drove it today in a camper van and it was in very good condition. That makes the trip between the two towns very quick if you're heading up or down The Desert Highway N12

May be a tad late to help, but will reply in case it's of use to others. We're travelling on a trike with a small trailer, so sticking mostly to tarmac with the odd bits of gravel road and piste.

Zagora - foum zguid (n12) - we took a different route from Foum Zguid - N'kob: R111 then right onto R108 to Agdz. About 35km from Alougoum north were gravel but being worked on (early April). The rest is all clear other than the odd bridge that's still out or gravelled up, but there were always easily navigable detours.

N'kob - Rissani: all clear except for the odd bits as above. The road through Rissani was one of the worst we've encountered!

As an aside, main bridge through Sidi Ifni still down but a diversion takes you round and out to Guelmim or south. Guelmim road all good, with the same gravelly bridges and odd diversions. Lots of bits of broken roads to see en route. Same true of the Assa-Foum-el-Hassan roads, then the N12 all the way through to Foum Zguid.

Hope that helps.

Zeid - Imichil - Tinerhir
 

Anyone any idea about the condition of the roads from Zeid - Imichil - Tinerhir? We're looking at taking the road from Zeid via Boumia, Agoudim and Anefgou to Imichil, then south through Todrha.

The only info I've been able to find is going back to last November when there were chunks of road out at a few places on this route (Agoudim to Anefgou being one, along with half of the rest of the country!), but hoping that they're clear by now. We're on a trike with a small trailer - fun, but not much in the way of off-road capabilities!

Thanks.

Hi, I done the section from Imilchil to Todra about a week ago, two up on a Super Tenere with a load of luggage. The condition of the road is OK but not great, there are sections where the tarmac has been eroded but nothing to worry about. The only potential problem you could face is the water levels on the numerous river crossings, we only had to deal with about 6-8 inches of water but the issue for me was the loose shingle on the river beds which made my front wheel dance all over the place, but I guess your trike will be fine.

In 2 weeks of riding in Morocco, that route was my favourite, it really is a fantastic ride!

That's fab - exactly what we needed to know - thank you! We'll give it a go :mchappy:

The journey from near Midelt to Imilchil turned into our most challenging day ever! There are lots of washed out bits of the road, but where it got really interesting was a few kilometers after Tounfit, not long after the piste from the Cirque de Jaffar joined our "road". I think this is part of MH1. We came into a river valley where a lot of the road had been washed away, but were going well until we ran out of road/track completely and had to go through the river bed. About 1km in an an hour, and 3 very hairy river crossings later things got better, but we did spend some time in there debating whether we'd be able to go on or have to turn back - the challenge is not knowing what it's like further on. River must've been over 40cm deep in places as the water went over the top of Tony's bike boots, with some even deeper potholes to watch out for. The trike was OK, but the trailer has small wheels and nothing like as much ground clearance - we think it may have been floating at one point.

The upside was absolutely stunning scenery and some entertaining encounters with locals on horses and donkeys. At one point we had a couple of lovely Berber ladies on horses laughing away at the sight of us emptying water out of our boots and wringing socks out. We did only meet people on foot or horseback for a fair stretch, which should have given us some clues in hindsight! Wet feet at 2,600m was not ideal...

4WD would have no probs getting through. Decent off-road bikes would be fine but fun. Road bikes or cars would most probably not make it. We always travel a lot slower on the trike than on bikes, but even so it took us about 7 hours from start to finish. That did include stopping in Boumia for fuel, water, and a treat of our first ice creams since leaving the coast for the desert a month ago though!

We later discovered that we had taken the ancient road, which is not maintained. Locals in vehicles use an alternative route which is more navigable, but I'm not sure where that is - apparently we should have taken a different fork in the road at some point.

This is the route we took and where the road first ran out:

In the last couple of days we have completed MS5,7,&6, in that order, ( in a defender) all are clear and open. End of ms7 at m'hamid some deep loose sand, and again crossing the river bed just before ramil on ms6. Just a little note for those that are interested, whilst having a shock absorber bush sorted in merzouga, over heard conversation between garage owner and couple of local dirt bike riders that there is an apparent shortage of petrol locally today. Later in Erfoud we had no problems getting diesel, and saw no signs to suggest any problems with petrol here.

A few eastern updates
 

Just to give a bit of info on a few pistes.

ME2 Boudenib to Efoud.

about 5kms along this piste after the first large oued a very deep ditch has been dug (may be filled in now) but a crossing has been made about 300m to North West of the old piste.

The Morrocco Overland book takes you on a fairly worn piste, unfortunatly I straayed a little too far to the West and ended in a Sandy Oued that I couldn't get of for quite some time. Would be fine in a 4x4 but not a laiden motorcycle.

There are a few sandy oued crossings but none that last any more than 100 metres.

Would suggest following the presecribed route and not veering too far!

Also, The 50 km road over this corner of the Rekkam plateau heading south from Missour is most definately a piste and now errs to a considerable degree to the east of the OSM shown route after about 5 km. I would stick with the new route as the piste is nice and easy and has been well travelled, therefore easy to navigate. after about 15-20km it rejoins the OSM.

It si quite a nice piste, not massively interesting appart from the odd camel and nomad's camp but it is great to see the mountains in the far distance come into view and as you get to them you get back on the tarmac. Would be a good first piste, It was for me!

Cirque du Jaffar/ No Petrol in Midelt
 

Hi there,

I'm new to HUBB and this is actually my first contribution. I used the platform a lot for travel preparations so I thought I might as well share some experiences. Hope it helps.

I'm currently on Cris Scott's MH1 in Imilchil. I did the Cirque du Jaffar with my Honda XRV650 and luggage yesterday and overall found the Piste to be in good condition. Nevertheless, for those doing it the first time, it is in places fairly technical and can be dangerous. When I went the Cirque was dry, which I guess is essential - I wouldn't recommend going there in bad weather as there are some deep drops and in places the track gets quite narrow.

The big rocks that have previously been reported must've been moved - at least I didn't see them. Definitely no obstruction at all. The gradient I didn't find too dramatic - I didn't have the impression it got to up to 20° or even more. But then I was on a bike and thinks might seem a bit easier then. Most importantly though: The hairpins and narrow bends are not due to any strong gradients.

I approached the Cirque from the SW (Midelt) and found the descent into the Cirque a bit more dangerous than the following sections. The riverbeds are the main obstacle for bikers - keep some momentum and try to find a relatively straight line and you'll be OK though.

Also watch out for barbed wire - as reported previously - and for dogs. They really didn't seem to be cool in the area. Got chased by dogs twice.

As a general comment on Cris Scott's grading of the route, I don't think one can negotiate the Cirque with anything less than a 4X4, but I've seen worse Pistes as well. I found Tim Cullis' rating as a red Piste most accurate - so one can tackle it alone on a fully loaded bike, but it gets technical at bits. Again, much depends on the weather. But also, if one is offroading in Morocco, one should probably be aware of the fact that this is fairly dangerous. So if you wanna have a nice and relaxed time with loved ones you might consider either getting a driver or staying on tarmac.

Another practical advise: At the moment (as of yesterday) there seems to be a shortage of unleaded petrol in the Midelt area. I had to ride back on the N13 for about 30kms till I found some.

Flood Damage on MH1 Between Agoudal and Dades
 

There have been some lightening storms in the Dades area today. Along the Gorge du Dades (I think) some places are only passable on 4x4's or Enduro bikes. More precisely, from the point were the Piste ends at the first river crossing/ bridge there were a few miles of heavy mud slides and one tricky river crossing (the first one - briefly impassable). As more rain seems likely the situation might stay like this. So if you wanna go there, expect some waiting times or an overnight stay. Otherwise take the route via Tinghir. Getting to the Cascades is no problem.

Also the piste itself I find quite dangerous in a bid of bad weather. Although not too technical, the drops are quite impressive and mud easily adds some more risk to it.

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I rode along ME6 yesterday from Bouarfa to Figuig. The piste is generally in good contion however there are two washed out parts past the halfway point, nearer Figuig (don't know how long they've been there, just thought I'd mention it). There are stones layed out to warn drivers and there are ways around the washed out sections.

Sahara Pistes
 

Rode through the Sahara pistes now. That is MS6 and MS7 (Merzouga - Tagounite - Foum Ziguid). The pistes (apart from the dry lakes) are generally technically quite demanding. There can be rain related trouble (although desert; mud/ quicksand). The sand is very soft, so keep your bikes light, and at other parts the terrain gets incredibly rocky. Adding to this there is the navigational risk and remoteness that can easily be underestimated by inexperienced desert riders. So don't go alone! There is no mobile signal, so help can be days away! I hired a guide and a 4x4, which over here isn't increadibly excessive. Took us 3 days, meaning there was some wild camping involved. Its well worth it! Increadible scenery!

Road conditions:
MS6: Owing to some rain Oued Rheris is a bit of a mud party. By mud I mean some very soapy mud... so quite a bit of work for a few miles. The detour further south doesn't work as you'll be stopped by the military (too close to the Algerian border). At Tafaroute there is a river crossing that was not passable. Just turn right in front of the crossing and through the palmerie for about 1km till the water level is flat enough. Was a piece of cake then. The last bit towards Tagounite was not passable due to the river crossings. So we detoured via Zagora. Quite scenic piste though.

MS7: The most tricky bit is right at the beginning shortly after Mhamid (did the southern piste through Erg Chegaga). The sand of the Erg was extremely powdery and negotiating the dunes on heavy bikes will be quite a challenge. Along the dunes there is some powdery sand that is almost indistinguishable from the rocky ground. Watch out for that! It's good for some nasty surprises. The following rock desert is fairly easy for bikes apart from one dried out river bed (you'll recognise it when you're there): Don't speed through. Tried that, almost threw me off. Lac Iriki is dry and good fun. Good to camp in the dunes east of Lac Ikiri!

Oued Rheris:
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Video I made (unfortunately not of the first day):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCd4FTH26g

Route Conditions - send in your updates
 

Piste between Tata and Foum Zguid is very firmly closed. Can't remember the route number atm so will update later.

In fact the whole desert south of the N12 between Tata and Foum Zguid is currently off limits to anyone. News is it was open last month.




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Must be MS8. Can you provide more information why it is closed - political reason or weather etc? Also do you know if the routes between Foum Zguid and Taconite (MS7) are still open (Soutt East from Foum Zguid)?
Are you currently in the region? if yes any update on other routes?