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-   -   World Record attempt AK/Ushuaia Sept 1 start (https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/motorcycle-events-around-the-world/world-record-attempt-ak-ushuaia-22912)

Luuk 29 Aug 2006 23:39
flying gringo, off topic question.
since you aparently know about guzzi's and i'm more into jap bikes. a mate of mine has a guzzi V7 and he noticed some weeks ago that there is a smal hole in the bottom of his bikes crankcase, its right in front of his rear wheel and it leaks oil, a lot. i have seen it and it looks like something made with a dril, so obviously its meant to be there. but what is it? should it have a plug? and should it leak oil right in front of his rear wheel? he doesnt own a manual and can't find out so maybe you know.

Luuk 30 Aug 2006 10:09
i"ll try them, thanks, and i always assumed KLE 500 are made by a ancient and eldrich sect of zen monks on the slopes of mount Fuji.

Caminando 30 Aug 2006 20:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Gringo
Another use for the engine has been in the latest Israeli unmanned drones that are being used in South Lebanon, Iraq and Afganistan.

Guzzi had been supplying the Italian Police with the 500cc single for many years, until the early 60s, when the Italians decided to put the contract out for open bid. One of the criterion for the new motorcycle was a service life of 100k KM. This is when a Triumph needed new pistons every 9K miles. They took an engine derived from the one they had designed for the Fiat 3x3, and the V7 was born. After much testing by the Italian Military and Police, Guzzi was rewarded the contract over Benelli, Gilera and Laverda. The engine is still one of the most durable ever put in a motorcycle, and there are several examples still being driven with more than 300K miles on them.

The record of Moto Guzzi (the oldest continuously operating motorcycle company in the world, on the verge of bankrupcy for 85 years) in endurance racing, Ironbutt Competitions and Battle of the Twins (where it regularly beats BMW) is legendary, which is why it would be one of the best machines to attempt this record on.
So Guzzis are being used to murder people in Lebanon! Shame on Guzzi...

Caminando 30 Aug 2006 20:51
[QUOTE=mollydog]Denis,
That IS a Guzzi! :thumbup1:
Look it up. Its one of the first uses of their Vtwin. I believe its from
the mid to late 50's or early 60's. Its a military vehicle. Very rare now.
I've seen one in person.

Hey, anyone want to buy a nice, original V7 Sport? There is a nice one
for sale on Craig's list here in the Bay area. Not cheap. Good investment?


Patrick[/QUOTE
Yes I know - thats why folk make the "agricultural" reference. Actually I quite like some Guzzis; but I would prefer they werent Italian build quality.

Atwoke 31 Aug 2006 13:15
Do us all a favor and Don't start spareing on political or religious grounds.

In a forum this size there will always be someone with a different opinion, and someone always takes a fence...or gets hurt...

:nono:

Hoopjohn 31 Aug 2006 20:36
Here it is. The eve of the departure from Prudhoe Bay. Temperatures tomorrow will be approx 32 degrees at 7:00 am. Road conditions on the 414 mile gravel laden Dalton Highway are rated as "FAIR". No rain in the forecast.
Looks like the trio of riders caught a break and got about the best weather they could hope for at this time of year (no rain).

Never having ridden the Dalton Highway, I am completely unaware of what constitutes a good days travel. Some of the travelogues I have read suggest making it across the length of the Dalton Highway (414 miles of gravel) is a major accomplishment to do in 1 day.

I wish the riders well. Even though I don't think they stand a snowballs chance in hell of breaking the record, I find myself still wanting them to at least make a good showing.

RickMcD 31 Aug 2006 22:02
Dalton Hwy.
 
It is a piece of cake "when it is dry". Just did it in June. Going up, it was raining and snowing. Took 12 hours from Yukon Crossing to Prudhoe Bay (360 miles) coming back 2 days later after the road dried out, same ride took only 6 hours. Made it all the way to Fairbanks in 8. If they catch the break (and it sounds like they might) they probably can do the 1000. There is a lot of daylight still BUT that is only the FIRST day. They have to do 33 more in a row. They need a LOT of breaks. Good Luck (and I mean it).
Rick

Lone Rider 31 Aug 2006 22:06
Tok = 700 miles
Destruction Bay = 950 miles

grimel 1 Sep 2006 04:27
Quote:
Originally Posted by RickMcD
It is a piece of cake "when it is dry". Just did it in June. Going up, it was raining and snowing. Took 12 hours from Yukon Crossing to Prudhoe Bay (360 miles) coming back 2 days later after the road dried out, same ride took only 6 hours. Made it all the way to Fairbanks in 8. If they catch the break (and it sounds like they might) they probably can do the 1000. There is a lot of daylight still BUT that is only the FIRST day. They have to do 33 more in a row. They need a LOT of breaks. Good Luck (and I mean it).
Rick
1000 a day until Mexico isn't that big of a deal. 1200 wouldn't be stretching it too much. With 10gal of fuel on board, 1400 gets "easy".

The key being that the rider(s) have worked up to multiple 1000 mile days.

Unlike Mollydog, I don't think they would have a better chance on a FJR/ST/RT. A GS1200, V-Strom (1000 or 650), Tiger, or Ulysses with 10gal of fuel would give them a better chance. All will run 90+ "all day" and are easier to run fast on gravel. The V and GS are gaining ground in the LD world. The Uly is getting a work out by some.

FWIW, I'd like my chances a lot more than theirs. I'm pretty sure I could be from Ak to Mex in about the time it takes them to reach the lower 48.

RickMcD 1 Sep 2006 16:14
Three Bikes Attempting Record.
 
I find myself curious about what the plan is, if one of the three bikes has a major breakdown. Will they ALL stop or will the other two wave "goodby". There isn't much time for "down time".

RickMcD 1 Sep 2006 18:27
The Ride not necessarily the Cause!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mollydog
Before anyone jumps on board for these guys, please go to the Pat Tilman foundation web site and see what its about. Now read about the guy behind this ride and see if his motives for doing the ride ring true for you or if it has any meaning and try to figure out the connection between the Ride and the record and the Tilman foundation. These guys are all "Marketing" graduates,
and this whole thing stinks of a tacky Sales Job.

Patrick:scooter:
I am (and sometimes unfortunately, always have been a skeptic) and when I started reading about this ride (and the cause), I decided to pay attention to ONLY the ride part. That way, I won't get sidetracked from the part I am really interested in. I am actually looking forward to reading about "the ride" and their progress and I as I said before I really wish them luck "on the ride".

Lone Rider 1 Sep 2006 19:25
The F650 will run 90 all day long, but mpg drops intothe 30s.
Does anybody know if they're running auxilary tanks?

Screwing with video/audio, uploading at the end of each day (from where?), website upkeep....gonna be busy..and tired.

Hoopjohn 2 Sep 2006 18:11
Day 1 in the books.

No updates.

Did they spend the night at some location where internet access is still 30-80 years into the future?

Did they experience problems and patiently cool their heels on a deserted highway?

Did they ride throughout the night in hopes of getting ahead of schedule?

Is no news good news? The mystery continues

Lone Rider 2 Sep 2006 18:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopjohn
Day 1 in the books.

No updates.

Did they spend the night at some location where internet access is still 30-80 years into the future?

Did they experience problems and patiently cool their heels on a deserted highway?

Did they ride throughout the night in hopes of getting ahead of schedule?

Is no news good news? The mystery continues
Fairbanks nursing a wound....Watson Lake tired and grinning...or somewhere in between.

Lone Rider 2 Sep 2006 18:44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Gringo
......They will be using oil like crazy too.

Adding fresh oil will mean longer oil change intervals. :)


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