Maps of russia
 

hi,

Plan to ride to magadan in 2012. Where's the best place to get maps for russia?

Ive tried stampford maps in london and the detail was a little lacking!

Cheers

How much detail are you looking for? Unless you intend to do some real trail-blazing, in many of these areas there is essentially only one road in the direction you're going, so there's not much point in having detailed maps. Russian road atlases will be readily available once you're in Russia, various scales are typically available. If possible, you'd probably find it helpful to learn the Cyrillic alphabet before setting out, its not that hard.

In addition, Walter Colebatch has uploaded an extensive set of waypoints for Siberia and the Far East, including the road to Magadan, which is stickied in the Northern Asia subforum.

Certainly the best road atlas I have found, covering almost all of Russia, is in the link below.

It only excludes far, remote areas of north east Russia, from a line north of Mirny, Yakutsk, Khandigar and Susuman although those are included.
The scale varies 1:800,000 1:1,500,000 and 1:3,000,000 depending on density of region. It shows built up areas, towns, villages, roads, tracks, railways, and rivers (but not the depth!). Some topographical detail such as marshlands, forest, etc.
It also includes detailed street plans of 9 major European Russia cities plus 4 more in adjoining countries, and 1:200,000 maps of Moscow Region Distance charts (Km) and a full index of place names.
All names are in Cyrillic but each page has a ‘thumbnail index’ map showing town names in Roman/English alphabet. Useful practice learning to recognize and read the Cyrillic alphabet!

336 pages, slightly larger than A4. Includes a ‘free’ magnifier. Current edition is No.6. 2010-2011.

I am visiting UK in 3 weeks time and will happily bring copies if anyone PMs me with their name address and a promise to send me the cost plus UK postage (about £10 - £12) when received. I will include b/w photocopy of a poorer map of the north east road above he cut-off line, if requested

The sample pages in the links do not show the real quality of the print and relate to much older editions!
[url=http://www.allmaps.ru/avto_km_stolb/russia]

Sorry - can't get HyperLink to work - you will have to cut'n paste!

PM sent :thumbup1:

And answered!
No problem.


Anyone else?
Let me know ASAP, but before 3 December please.

To clarify, £10-12 is estimated total of the cost of both the atlas and postage from/to UK.
I am happy to mail elsewhere from UK or locally en-route as I cross northern Europe (LT, LV, PL, D, NL, B, F.

TP, see if you can find these ... I have both but prefer this one to the one you linked to. Take a look and see what you think.

Russia Road Atlas (Paperback ed.)

Hi Tony

Have sent you a PM.

Thanks for your help.

cheers
Chris

Cheers for the adice! I am a little more relieved that it doesn't seem to be that hard to get info!

I don't plan to be to off the beaten track. My bikes a 650gs so not exsactly a hardcore off road bike!

Especially on the main Trans-Siberian road, there is not that much to worry about, there only one road and no shortage of fuel, food, lodging. I have not been up to the Yakutsk/Magadan area yet, but there you need to pay more attention to where'll you'll find the basics. I think, however, that Colebatch's waypoints and the info in his ride reports on ADVRider should provide about all the info you need (along with a basic roadmap).

Tony rocks
 

Hey Tony, got my atlas in the mail yesterday :clap:. Thank you very much. I'll owe you... beerbeerbeer

Received nothing so far, but with the weather, the Chrimbo rush and the postal service being as "efficient" as it is, it may take a while. Will let you know as soon as it appears. (This assumes you've had time to send it).
cheers
Chris

T.Rex got his as I mailed it to him in Germany last friday as I was driving across Germany between my homes.

The others for UK folks are now safely here with me in London.
I will be mailing them out in the next day or two - as soon as I have dealt with the 4 months mail piled up behind the front door!

Sorry for the delay. Hopefully you can all be looking at routes during the holiday break!

Andysr6, Oothef, Chris, Harryboi, Servdave, Holdragon and DaveEde.

Your Atlases were mailed yesterday morning, Saturday 18th.

There is one left if anyone wants (final cost was GBP10 including P&P), otherwise I can get more and bring to UK at beginning of March.

The one Colebatch prefers (which I believe I got for him!) was not available in 3 map/book shops in Moscow. From memory it only shows roads and did not have much, if any, topographical information other than rivers and rail.

Tony,

If its still available I'd like to buy your last copy of the atlas. I plan to spend 3 months next year going from Vladivostok to Europe and at the moment don't have any decent maps. I can send you a British address (my father) to keep the posting for you simple and I'll get him to forward it onto me here in Australia (he's bound to be sending other stuff post christmas).

Let me know how to get the money to you and I'll send it right away.

All the best

Thanks so much for that! I shall pop the cheque in the post once the map arrives!

Does anyone know any good bookstore in St.Petersburg where to get that mapbook Tony mentioned and expecially maps from Arkangel and Karelia area?

I am planning ride for next summer from Finland through Karelia to White Sea and then back going around Ääninen and Lagoda lake. I will most likely visit St.Petersburg during winter and having big papermap of that area would help putting for planning like where to find fuel etc and where are routes what people have driven.

I saw it the other day in Dom Knigi (Дом Книги) in Nevsky Prospect (Невский Проспект) opposite the Kazansky Cathedral . They are the biggest book shop in StPeter with a reasonable map/Atlas section. There may be more specialist map shops in StPeter - I don't know the place that well.

Thanks Tony. I have a look when i visit there most likely january or february.

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Thanks Tony, i have transfered you the money via Paypal, looking forward to receiving them. Andy:clap:

Many thanks Tony!
 

Hi Tony
Atlas arrived today and money sent via PayPal.

Really appreciate your help.:biggrin3:
Merry Christmas
Chris

Cheers Tony
 

Many thanks for the atlas, it arrived at the office today(23rd) all I need is someone to have brought me a Russian alphabet guide for Christmas!!

Once again Many thanks Tony.

:santa: My surprise Christmas present just for you:-
Russian Alphabet

If you have your speakers on it 'says' the letter to you if you click on each line.

The road atlas also has a thumbnail at the bottom of each page with 'Roman' names of towns. A good way of checking your understanding of the Cyrilic alphabet.

Russia Road Atlas
 

I can now buy more of these Atlases if anyone wants.

Cost, including P&P mailing from UK to UK, is GBP10. Other destinations will cost more in postage.

PM me letting me know fairly soon as I leave Moscow again in 3 weeks.
But I will not be mailing them until I return to UK about 22nd March, as I am taking a skiing holiday en-route.

Pay me when they arrive, by cash, cheque or PayPal.

Hi Tony,

I'm very interested in the Russian atlases and will defer on your judgement regarding the paperback Colebatch likes.

I live in Thailand but they could be mailed to the US, too.

Whatever is easiest for you. Come to think of it, I do have a contact/address in London, too.

Thanks,

Kurt

I have at last recently found and looked at a copy of the atlas Colebatch prefers. In Moscow it's not widely available and costs 50% more than 'mine'.
It uses more colours but shows less topographical detail in some areas and many roads are shown more diagramatically (straighter) than 'my' one. Mind you, being Russia, neither may be accurate when you get there!!

It's all initial personal preference.

Given a choice, some guys initially go for blondes, or brunettes or redheads. Despite the difference, they all perform the same function and you quickly adapt to what's available!

I have now bought a quantity of 'my' atlas and sometime after 22nd I will be sending them out to all who have already asked for one via PM. I will confirm via PM at the time.

I can get further copies for sending from UK - probably sometime after April.

With three choices :w00t:, one could... well... ahhhh, ...never mind :innocent:

They never perform exactly the same function ... at least not with equal levels of performance.

Dont stop being discerning, just because you're approaching 70 my friend. :thumbup1:

Russia Atlas
 

Sorry for the delay. It's been a hectic visit to UK!

To confirm-
- I am tomorrow sending an Atlas to - Geordie_e - Livotlout - idf000 - Genghis9021 - navalarchitect

- I am waiting for address confirmations from - Debz - pinball1008

They are going by 2nd Class post in the morning from London - except the ones for Genghis and Naval where I am using Air Mail Printed Paper rate.

If anyone asked and I have not included them above please contact me. Otherwise I have one more available if anyone wants and lets me know - quick as I am back to RUS on Friday. But I can bring more back to UK in May.

TP

Tony, I think I mentioned to you that the map shop on Kuznetsky Most has closed. No great loss, but wanted to let you know.

A few weeks ago I went to the Dom Knigi on the Arbat, they have a pretty good selection of maps, probably the best I've seen.

That's a shame.
Although really unsuitable for my needs, it was one of the last of the old style shops from the pre-perestroika era. The people there were more concerned about their maps, and those interested in them, than sales/profit.

Sadly it will doubtlessly become yet another Gucci or D&G boutique - which interests me not!

Dom Knigi on Novi Arbat has a fair map collection but Biblio-Globus, next to the Lubianka, has more. Their map section is on a half landing on a staircase. They are particularly good for street maps for regional areas/towns/cities across Russia.
No real logical order to them, but worth a browse on a lunch time!

Actually they were so concerned about their maps that they often seemed reluctant to show them to customers! Service there was pretty Soviet IMO. And actually I've heard that it will become a BMW motorrad shop! (haha, just kidding).

I've been to Biblioglobus many times, it is right by my house, but the map selection there has never impressed, partly because it is so poorly organized. I usually look for regional rather than city maps though, so maybe that's the difference. Look forward to seeing you soon.

Tony P

your a star, map arrived today and I have paypal you the money

once again many thanks for taking the time and trouble

Cheers
Geordie aka Will E