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Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 501144)

Hi Colm

My iPad is an iPad mini. It is a wifi +3G version but as it doesn't have a sim card in it it's working as wifi only. As I mentioned before I'm running it with free sat-nav software and it works very well.

Being wifi only the sat-nav is running from the internal maps that you download before you leave so there's no way it can go online via the 3G phone network and run up second mortgage bills. That's the way I want it to be. The iPhone does have a sim card and while I use it on the bike(s) I tend to stick with an old pda that runs TomTom sat nav. TomTom software is def easier to use although I've run both of them side by side in the Land Rover and they pick pretty much the same routes.

I'd certainly put the iPad mini into the tank bag map compartment and use it because it would fit in inside its case but we also have a full size one and that won't go in at all (I've just tried). Even if your tank bag is bigger than mine I'd be a bit worried about using it - they're a little fragile for that (our one is only used around the house and it's on its third screen (and that's cracked)).

I've chucked the pda into the tank bag map compartment and used it all over Europe both summer and winter without any problems. In your position I'd be seriously considering buying a cheap car Tom Tom sat-nav on eBay, using that in the tank bag and keeping the iPad for route planning in the evenings.

I tend to use sat nav to take the strain out of reading signposts and deciding which way to go at T junctions. I'd never get off the ferry in Calais and just set it to Athens (or wherever I was going) because it would probably route me through Moscow or Stockholm or somewhere stupid. Instead I decide for myself which route I want to take and make a list of intermediate points probably no more than 50 miles apart. That way it's likely to chose sensible roads.

With TomTom choosing the "shortest route" option is the way to be routed along dirt tracks and through front gardens. Go with "fastest route" to avoid that. Even then there are times when it makes crazy decisions - like 2 miles down a dirt road to do a U turn and detouring me 5 miles through a village and bringing me out onto the main road 200m from where I started (both of those in northern France). Other than that it does make nav a lot easier. No more stopping at crossroads and spending 20mins with a map trying to work out whether to turn left or right. I've not bothered with bluetooth in-ear directions and tend to turn the sound off. The pics are good enough.

Thanks a million for all that! Like you said im not really interested in staring at a screen all day but just need something to have at the ready when needed! I was hoping to kill 2 birds with one stone, I need a new ipad !

So far ive been planning the route on google maps and this is my 1st European trip so im not quite sure how good that is for planning. I'll have a look on ebay and see whats there. Cheers for the advice on "shortest routes" il certainly keep that in mind!!!

Thanks again for all your input, much appreciated!
P.s I def wont be listening to directions in my ear, not a hope!

Colm.

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Originally Posted by MileHighJunkie (Post 501867)

Cheers for the advice on "shortest routes" il certainly keep that in mind!!!

I've used 'shortest route' .. can be very interesting .. but
took me off the main road for 100 meters on to 2 back streets then back onto a second main road .. avoiding a traffic light turn from the main road to the second main road. Considering the trouble of the the 2 turns I'd rather have used the traffic lights .. looking back on it. So use with caution. The back streets must have been a few meters shorter.

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Originally Posted by Warin (Post 501875)

Ha, by the sound of those "shortest routes" you'd need a multi purpose bike! I'll stick to the main roads!

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Originally Posted by Warin (Post 501875)

Ditto.
In some cases you can see it coming on the display; the Garmin nuvi has tried to take me off a major road that is laid out in a curve in order to ride off the exit road, onto a roundabout and back onto the original route via the "on ramp" (to use an American expression).
Presumably to save a few metres.

Bizarre, but just remember that such tools don't have brains or anticipation, just software.

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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 501920)

Are those Garmin Nuvi's any good?

It all depends on what you want out of it

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Originally Posted by MileHighJunkie (Post 501927)

Are those Garmin Nuvi's any good?

That depends what you mean by "good" - all singing, all dancing, take you by the hand and never show you a wrong move then the answer is no.
Not mine anyway, which is an old second-owner tool that doesn't have the lane assist, speed camera notification, bluetooth, or whatever else is the latest fad on sat navs.

My philosophy for how I use it is KISS; keep it simple (with a further S for "stupid" but I don't subscribe to the latter s).
There is much more about that in the sticky thread in here about "smart phones Vs Garmin et al".

But I have downloaded OSM maps and used them in the Nuvi. So, it all depends on your needs, your wants, and your expectations.
ps
I used to download the OSM maps to my 205w Nuvi by following the instructions in the sticky thread in this sub-section; now I get them via the multitude of apps for android phones - there are lots of mapping apps that use OSM maps as their default display.

The numerical finality of GPS routes is why I bimble about simply keeping the sun in roughly the right place. Set it to shortest and if you fancy a 20 mph chance to adjust your goggles and see the local duck pond, follow it. If you don't ignore and take your chance on the town bypass and if it turns out to force you in the wrong direction deal with it. Mrs. Naggy-Silicone will sort herself out and stop yakking about it after a mile or three. Only time to follow the exact advice is while running on vapour. This is why I like a bike with good range.

Andy

Eeeeeeee..... been a while but some good pointers on here, cheers for that. I'm gonna take the plunge and pur-chase one this week and I still have no idea which one to go for but a 3 week Spain trip is looming on the GS so here goes..........

install maps.me - its a revelation !
offline navigation - points of interest (fuel stations, hotels and banks to start with) down load the countries you need when you have an internet connection.

MAPS.ME (MapsWithMe), detailed offline maps of the World for iPhone, iPad, iPod, Android, Amazon Kindle Fire and BlackBerry

Ive had no paper map for Russia, but that app has saved me a few times already - I also imported colebatch's HUBB waypoints to it - running on a samsung galaxy with a handle bar mounted case - its everything you need (in my humble opinion)

You know what, I'll probably take a goosygander at that very site and hold back on the purchase, thanks for posting Mark....!!