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Il Bandito Lontano 3 May 2024 17:10

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Originally Posted by TodoTerreno (Post 640982)
As far as I understand it, Tunisia - Algeria border is quite straight forward, if you have an invitation letter or hotel booking and I assume the crossing from Algeria into RIM will be visa on arrival for my German passport, like it is when coming into RIM from Morocco/DZ or Senegal. So this is visa wise a very low effort trip, without big planning in advance needed.

TT, I have an Italian passport and I've been digging into the planning for a Tunisia-Algeria trip and everything I see on-line is that Schengen Area passports require a visa to Algeria issued from your home country.

Do you (or anyone here) have any additional knowledge or experience with getting a visa on arrival at a land border for Algeria? Or maybe I misinterpreted your statement about the T-A border being straight forward with a hotel reservation?

Thanks!

Chris Scott 3 May 2024 18:53

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visa on arrival at a land border for Algeria?
Currently VoAs are only issued at airports.

For land borders you need more than a hotel reservation, you a visa in advance which is most easily obtained from the consulate in your home country with evidence of hotel res (certificate d'hebergement) or of course a booked tour with an escort meeting you at the border.

edwardbgill 7 May 2024 21:41

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Originally Posted by Il Bandito Lontano (Post 641804)
TT, I have an Italian passport and I've been digging into the planning for a Tunisia-Algeria trip and everything I see on-line is that Schengen Area passports require a visa to Algeria issued from your home country.

Do you (or anyone here) have any additional knowledge or experience with getting a visa on arrival at a land border for Algeria? Or maybe I misinterpreted your statement about the T-A border being straight forward with a hotel reservation?

Thanks!

FYI I came in/out of Algiers, Oran, Mostaganem & the Taleb Larbi (DZ/TN) crossings last autumn and saw nothing to suggest that you can turn up and get a visa on the spot.

Needless to say Chris's post above is also right on the money, based on my experience.

Ed

edwardbgill 7 May 2024 21:44

Marcello Carucci, who without doubt is in the pantheon of motorbiking influencers with the greatest facial hair, made it to Tamanrasset this week - only worth mentioning because it sounds like he had to have an escort from In Salah, if I've understood his posts correctly (they're in Italian).

https://www.facebook.com/marcellocaruccimoto

If correct, an unfortunate sign that the waters remain muddy for unassisted travel further south still.

Ed

TodoTerreno 11 May 2024 06:55

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Originally Posted by Il Bandito Lontano (Post 641804)
TT, I have an Italian passport and I've been digging into the planning for a Tunisia-Algeria trip and everything I see on-line is that Schengen Area passports require a visa to Algeria issued from your home country.

Do you (or anyone here) have any additional knowledge or experience with getting a visa on arrival at a land border for Algeria? Or maybe I misinterpreted your statement about the T-A border being straight forward with a hotel reservation?

Thanks!

I got this info of the T-A border being "straight forward" from a German 4x4-Forum, where some group described it like that. Whether they had visa collected in advance wasn't clear, but getting one doesn't seem to be a problem, even without a verified hotel booking or guide for the entire stay.

Chris Scott 11 May 2024 07:38

Not done it for years but always was straightforward by African standards, just took a long time (going DZ>TN).


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.... even without a verified hotel booking or guide for the entire stay.
That's how it was before 2003, but you needed a visa in advance (at least since the 90s). Some countries like Germany do have fewer difficulties getting visas than others.

edwardbgill 11 May 2024 17:20

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Originally Posted by TodoTerreno (Post 641888)
I got this info of the T-A border being "straight forward" from a German 4x4-Forum, where some group described it like that. Whether they had visa collected in advance wasn't clear, but getting one doesn't seem to be a problem, even without a verified hotel booking or guide for the entire stay.

Are you going by bike or 4x4?

If on bike, in the DZ side I was simply waved through to the head of a very very very very long queue, as per other places. Which was nice.

In a 4x4, I'd take a good book to read....!

Ed

TodoTerreno 13 May 2024 09:08

In the foreseeable future I'm not going anywhere but arm chair exploring the desert from my desk. When health conditions allow again, I would like to stretch the legs of my trusty Landy S2a 4x4 over African sand one day and that loop Tunis -> Tangier via Mauri seems quite tempting.

Thanks for the book tip. We would never catch up with any queue or traffic jam and can read books at cruising speed in that old leafer. I guess DZ crossing will have cleared up, until well make it there.

I gathered this info about crossing from Tunisia into Algeria far post pandemic lockdowns, so fairly recently (´22 or ´23 ish). But a German passport may be advantageous compared to others. I'm sure, the group did not book a guided tour, as their break down stories wouldn't have been so ridiculous if they had been accompanied by a local and some common sense.

edwardbgill 14 May 2024 12:07

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Originally Posted by TodoTerreno (Post 641913)
In the foreseeable future I'm not going anywhere but arm chair exploring the desert from my desk. When health conditions allow again, I would like to stretch the legs of my trusty Landy S2a 4x4 over African sand one day and that loop Tunis -> Tangier via Mauri seems quite tempting.

Thanks for the book tip. We would never catch up with any queue or traffic jam and can read books at cruising speed in that old leafer. I guess DZ crossing will have cleared up, until well make it there.

I gathered this info about crossing from Tunisia into Algeria far post pandemic lockdowns, so fairly recently (´22 or ´23 ish). But a German passport may be advantageous compared to others. I'm sure, the group did not book a guided tour, as their break down stories wouldn't have been so ridiculous if they had been accompanied by a local and some common sense.

The passport situation is a funny one - I'm not sure if it makes a big difference, though I understand a French one might. As a Brit, I found it did not hold me back.

From what I've seen of late, I think what's more likely to lead to restrictions on movement instead is a) whether you're driving a flash vehicle (and therefore are more likely in the eyes of the gendarmeries to get robbed) b) how well equipped you are in said vehicle and your general state of preparedness and c) ability to speak at least some French to get by. A Series 2a Landy should help you out on the first two counts for sure!

Ed

vlro 22 Jun 2024 16:52

Tindouf border
 
I'm planning my trip this year to explore the 'Empty Quarter' on both sides, and I'm wondering if anybody has had a recent experience crossing from Algeria to Mauritania ?

Chris Scott 22 Jun 2024 17:32

Assuming you mean the Tindouf route (not really Majabat al Koubra or E¼), this is the thread you want:
https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hu...uritania-95755

I think the window for Majabat (RIM-Mali) is long closed.

p4jk 10 Aug 2024 13:37

hi fellow travellers!

We are preparing for a trip to Djanet. Based on info that was given to us on the Algerian embassy we need a signed paper by authorised Algerian tourist agency. Based on this we can acquire Visa on the Tunisian-Algerian land border. However, catch is that in this case we need an escort from that agency throughout our trip in Algeria.

How do Europeans usually organize a 4x4 trip to Algeria? I saw some posts and blogs from people going solo in the south and around.

Do you ask for a normal visa and book a hotel in the north for duration of your stay in Algeria? in this case, can you expect any issues with police on your way south?

Any advice is most welcome. we are a bit confused.

Chris Scott 10 Aug 2024 14:45

The way you describe with escorts has been in place since 2004 (though usually the visa was issued before, in your home country).
Most people take this route as it is guaranteed.
A local in his own vehicle has its uses if you strike trouble.

As you say, lately people have managed solo but it is bit of a 'trick' to get the visa with lodging invitation.

Reads the posts by edwardbgill and his website. All is explained.
Getting the visa this way can be a bit of a gamble, but once you are past the port/border the checkpoints down south ought not stop you, though they will want a local contact number, pour votre securité, so get a local SIM.

Chris Scott 5 Sep 2024 21:01

6 months old, but some Lithuanians in Algie.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...38310233947926

edwardbgill 5 Sep 2024 22:10

I'd add that if you get a letter of invitation for your visa from an in-country guide/agency then you will need to stay with those guides for the duration of your trip.

Suspect that this has been the policy for a while however the Ministry for the Interior has recently restated this to guides.

Thanks

Ed


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