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Richard Washington 31 Mar 2010 11:58

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Originally Posted by Chris Scott (Post 283203)
Regarding the French engineers building new? air strips in north Mali. You wonder why bother, they have all the all-weather runway they need at Bordj Moktar, the same at Agadez (both just 600km from the near-Menaka 'Red Zone'), and a mile long strip at Chegga (all in 'safer' Alg, Niger and Mori respectively).

Ch

If the campaign is planned around fighter/bombers (like Mig23) then 600km is probably too far (response time too slow, fuel/range a problem) and dirt strips like at Chenachen (not Chegga?) are too short and the wrong surface for the Migs. That said, a bombing campaign is misguided. Better to base it round some Mi-24 choppers (easy to refuel anywhere on the ground, easy to chase targets on the ground and with appropriate kit on board). Butterfly tactics work well (chopper one stands 10 minutes off), chopper two flits around, lands here and there to draw attention and when the attention finally arrives, chopper one joins the party. Its worked well elsewhere. Bombing runs, by comparison, are more miss than hit.

"(not Chegga?)"
Added by Ch: There is a 1.5-km airstrip 4.6km west of Chegga fort, but as you say, big helicopters better.
Added by RW: 4.6-km east of Chegga fort?

priffe 31 Mar 2010 15:07

Howz about drones? The americans are starting to us them in Somalia, and also targeted killings.

I heard that Alg are blocking transport of water and commodities to Tessalit region - could this be at all effective? Evidently it has been a successful tactic in pacifying the south, controlling water and fuel.
But the border is huge and there is enough water in Tessalit, no?

Ulrich 2 Apr 2010 06:21

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In 1996 and 1997, the war rages against the FIS in Algeria. It causes "AH" of jihadists in the south. But the "South of Algeria, the North West of Mali and a second. "The joke of the Malian president is the" Zone 9 "of the GSPC, which runs from south of Algeria to the north of Niger, Mauritania and Mali. Unwanted in Algiers, "first column" of the Islamists carol Tanezrouft, Tamesna, Adrar and Akla these vast areas of sand and dune fields between Mali, Niger, Mauritania and Algeria, where the day is an oven, a freezer overnight and the water a treasure. Moreover, only a few households live alongside nomadic, seasonally, groups and caravans daring smugglers of cigarettes.
maliweb - Enquêtes sur le terrorisme sahelo-saharien : Au cœur de l’empire salafiste

Gogoonisch - E

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The arrest warrant issued against him by Mauritania Monday, March 29 he will change everything for Mokhtar Belmoktar born in 1972 in Ghardaia, Algeria? In any case, he now likens the Salafist leader in a narco-terrorist and not the less serious charges at a time when Washington went into raptures at Nouakchott, Algeria and applauds the "household" Mali.
maliweb - La métastase Belmokhtar

Gogoonisch - E

Ulrich

Chris Scott 2 Apr 2010 11:19

Both interesting articles from Ulrich from a Malian POV.

Of MBM they say the ...man is credited with all the powers, starting with the gift of ubiquity. You see him everywhere at the same time, Blida, Algeria, Tedjerert Mali, Mauritania Alegh, Agadez in Niger... A sort of Lucky Luke in turbans...

but this time they speculate the game could be up for him.

Ch

Ulrich 7 Apr 2010 07:00

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A French hostage, kidnapped by an al Qaeda affiliate in Mali, was released last month in exchange for four Islamist militants. French President Nicolas Sarkozy lost little time in thanking his Mali counterpart.
DW - Diplomatic row threatens Western-backed alliance in the Sahel against al Qaeda

Ulrich

Dave The Hat 10 Apr 2010 02:17

[url=http://www.maliweb.net/category.php?NID=59023&intr]maliweb.net :: Axe Bamako- Nouakchott : Un bataillon militaire mauritanien d

Ulrich 10 Apr 2010 06:13

maliweb - Axe Bamako- Nouakchott : Un bataillon militaire mauritanien déployé �* la frontière malienne :thumbup1:

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Thomas More Institute Special Report, presented on Wednesday, April 7th, 2010 during the conference "Maghreb and the European Union: Enhancing the partnership for a sustainable security", with Dominique BAUDIS (European Parliament), Philippe de FONTAINE VIVE CURTAZ (European Investment Bank), João DE SANTANA (European Commission), Mohammed BENHAMMOU (African Federation for Strategic Studies) and Amel BOUBEKEUR (Carnegie Middle East Center).

The relationship between Europe and the Maghreb is a complex, multidimensional and somewhat passionate one. The two areas share a common history and are bound by common interests. United against a number of joint challenges (economic development, regional stability, fight against terrorism, migration, sustainable development), it is time for the two shores of the Mediterranean to reconsider the basis for their cooperation. As societies in the Maghreb undergo important transformations, security stakes rise and opportunities arise for regional integration and cooperation between Europe and the Maghreb, the aim must be the emergence of sustainable security from which the European Union (EU) and its members will profit just as much as the Maghreb countries and their populations.
Institut Thomas Moore - Towards a sustainable security in the Maghreb: an opportunity for the region, a commitment for the European Union

The complete report:

The special report in PDF (28 pages), 1009 KB---------------------->http://www.desert-info.ch/download/pdf/Icons/PDF.jpg
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Such is the hysterical disregard for the law in parts of the United States that when, on March 22, District Court Judge James Robertson ordered the release from Guantánamo of Mohamedou Ould Slahi, a 38-year-old Mauritanian who was once described as the "highest-value detainee at the facility," Republican lawmakers were in uproar.
truthout - Guantánamo and Habeas Corpus: The Torture Victim and the Taliban Recruit

Ulrich

Dave The Hat 10 Apr 2010 22:04

Washington is preparing to establish a military base in Burkina Faso

Algeria reservation to participate in exercises in the Atlantic coast

El Khabar

Ulrich 12 Apr 2010 16:01

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How the persecution of Islamists across North Africa, in the name of fighting terrorism, is sowing the seeds for future instability.

On a rainy Tuesday morning in February, a group of about 20 veiled women -- most of them dressed in black niqabs, the full-body veils favored by the most conservative Muslims -- stand silently in the street in front of the Rabat administrative tribunal. These wives, mothers, and sisters of alleged terrorists detained by the Moroccan government have come from across the country to show their support for one of their own, Fatiha Mejjati. Inside the courtroom, Mejjati is bringing a suit against the Moroccan government for wrongfully detaining her and her then-11-year-old son for nine months in 2003.
FP - Morocco's Misguided War on Terror

Ulrich

Dave The Hat 12 Apr 2010 19:21

Grenade attack in Gao, Mali:

:: maliweb.net :: Les Nouvelles du Mali

Dave The Hat 12 Apr 2010 19:34

Suggestions of whch way the culprits who shot the 5 soldiers in Niger recently went after the attack:

maliweb.net :: Les Dijahadistes de Tilwa venaient du Mali

priffe 13 Apr 2010 11:26

Algerians in the desert have had it with islamists
Algeria: We're Not Going To Take It Any More
French military instructors arrive in Mopti to train hundreds of Mali soldiers
Mali : des instructeurs français dépêchés pour une formation anti-terroriste - Temoust.org | Le portail du peuple touareg berbère Kel Tamasheq
also Ennahar Online - French instructors for anti-terrorist training in Mali
News from Kidal
Les news de Kidal.info || Kidal.info

Chris Scott 13 Apr 2010 22:26

It looks like Algeria is moving in on the northeast too (Tizi Ouzou, etc - not the desert). This has been the site of attacks on civilians and officials every few weeks for many years.

Along with the news from the south it could be the beginning of the showdown - or just another war.


(Maghrebia)
Algerian army begins biggest anti-terror offensive in years

2010-04-13 Thousands of ANP troops, supported by Algerian gendarmes, police and Special Forces, just launched the country's largest anti-terror military operation since the 2005 Charter for Peace and National Reconciliation, Liberte reported on Tuesday (April 13th), adding that President Abdelaziz Bouteflika "has finally realised that armed Islamist groups continue to defy the state".

The "Ennasr" (Victory) operation targets at least 300 terrorists in Jijel, Skikda, Batna, Bejaia, Bordj Bou Arreridj, Setif, Constantine, M'sila, Medea, Djelfa Tipasa Tlemcen Sidi Bel-Abbes, Ain Defla, Bouira, Boumerdes, Tizi Ouzou, Blida, Biskra, Saida, Relizane and Tebessa.

jonathanhfxns 14 Apr 2010 05:06

Chasing 300 people amongst what amounts to 80+% of the national population in most of the densely inhabited wilayas? Looking for grains of sand in an erg.

Notice that there are zero extremists in Algiers, Oran, and Annaba - the three most important cities (apart from the petroleum areas).

I just hope they don't knock the erg over in pursuit of said sand grains. People are generally fed up with things, and even more control might not be so good. They seem at the same time to be so thirsty for peace and normality that they have a vast reserve of tolerance and resignation for the not always pleasant means to that cherished end.

Algeria is SO hard to read, understand, or get any sort of grasp on, even having spent time there. A situation not helped by the mind bending press that comes out.

Sometimes I wonder if the risk factor is indeed much higher. In 99.99% of cases it is not, but it only takes one extremist/bomb/abduction/etc.

Chris Scott 14 Apr 2010 10:19

Give them a break, at least Bouteflika "has finally realised that armed Islamist groups continue to defy the state". Maybe that was a jab.

I think they have a fairly good idea where the jihadis hang out - or the long put-upon hill villagers certainly do, just as they do in Mali and NWFP. The nature of the terrain means it won't be as easy as the desert but as long as they don't napalm the place it will be a great propaganda offensive.

This seems to be the way they do it now. Announce "we're coming to get you" and then go and get them.

Ch


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