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sasplanet 9 Nov 2007 13:29

Help needed in Agadir no tyres
 
Tried all over Morocco rung my dealer in England says 200 quid just for carriage. The tyres are for ktm 990 adv back 150 70/18 front 90 90/ 21. Dealer says last time they sent tyres to morocco they didnt arrive. Any advice wud be much appreciated

MotoEdde 9 Nov 2007 13:33

There's a KTM shop down the street from the old Mauri Consulate in Casa...same neighborhood as Campement Oasis...
If you can get someone local in Agadir to inquire for you to his friend in Casa, you may be in luck.
I saw this dealer in December 2006...so hopefully he's still around.

sasplanet 9 Nov 2007 13:56

Thanks Edde
 
Have tried Casa MarraKetch Leyounne and Ceuta in spanish part I was going buy there but no tyres anywhere. 2000 km looking so far looks like i will have to dhl new tyres

kevinhancock750 11 Nov 2007 20:39

treads
 
i left a pair of anakee's in bikershome in ouarzazate about 3 wks ago. there was about half tread left on them when i changed them for knobblies. the back is a bit smaller at 140 but better than nothing. obviously ring peter first and see if he still has them. i dont have the number but you can find it in a search of bikershome.
hope it helps.

sasplanet 12 Nov 2007 14:59

Cheers Kev
 
My dealer now says 120 city link but i dont know if that includes duty and tax.Has anyone tried. You obviously brought tyres with you. If all else fails will go to spain and change there.

Tim Cullis 12 Nov 2007 15:15

KTM lists Mondial Motors in Casablanca as a dealer: Mondial Motors, 100 Rue Ibn Habbous Maarif Extension, Casablanca. Tel: +212 22.98.29.06 and +212 22.25.10.21 web: MONDIAL MOTORS : Quads, Motomarines, Scooter des mers et Jet ski de Marque POLARIS au MAROC

Moto Plus in Casablanca area is an Aladin's Cave for bikers, telephone +212 22.20.38.15. Address is 86 Rue Hadj Ammar Riffi, Mers Sultan.

I've left a cache of tyres with Peter at http://www.bikeshome.net, tel +212 70.78.56.40 but they are BMW GS sizes. But give Peter a buzz, he may be able to help. Moto Aventuras in Ouarzazate run 450cc KTMs, don't know if they are the same size, but Peter will have their phone number.

It's normally possible to pick up part used common sized tyres in the areas the Dakar runs, Foum Zguid, for example, but I have no contact.

Tim

sasplanet 13 Nov 2007 09:49

Hi Tim
 
Have been to casa they sell the 990 adv but dont have tyres same in ceuta.Can you find Michelin deserts in Morocco.City link dont even know if they have to pay duty dhl is 460 just for carriage.

Tim Cullis 13 Nov 2007 11:46

Sorry, don't know and have run out of ideas--I always take my tyres with me. Did Peter come up with any ideas?

Yes, you would have to pay duty on imported tyres.

Tim

sasplanet 13 Nov 2007 11:56

tyres
 
Rung Pete at bikershome he was at bikeshop in Agadir at the time. They might have a Michellin baja 140 80 18 are they up to the job.Shipping out of question

Thanks all steve

Lalli 13 Nov 2007 13:12

Tyres from Melilla
 
Hi Sasplanet,
I am almost on my way to Morocco. At the moment I am still in Salamanca/Spain, but I have planned to be in Melilla Saturday night. Since I pass the KTM-shop in Cordoba Friday evening I could try to get some tyres. BUT: Since I want to go from Melilla down to Mezouga etc. it would take some time to meet. In case you need my assistance let me know.

Good luck

Lalli

Tim Cullis 13 Nov 2007 14:01

Peter might have already spoken to Su at MotoAventures, if not her cellphone is +212 75.20.94.89

Tim

sasplanet 13 Nov 2007 18:42

Hi Lalli
 
Yours sounds like a plan.I have found that ktm dealers dont stock tyres
Pirelli Scorpion 150 80/18 and 90 90/21 A/t mt90 or Michellin deserts.They have to order them but if it were possible I would be very interested in your proposal.

Steve in Agadir

sasplanet 14 Nov 2007 08:45

Tyres Agadir
 
Have found a Michellin baja are they Spanish and are they up to the job.

Glynn Roberts 14 Nov 2007 10:32

Hi,

What choice have you got? Surely you have to have them?
I can't advise you on whether they are suitable but in my experience if they are the right size, but 'unsuitable' all that will happen is they will wear out faster than normal.

I too am heading your way this weekend and will keep a watch on this thread, will happily pick some tyres up for you on the way through Spain.

Glynn

Lalli 14 Nov 2007 11:42

Michelin Baja
 
Hello again,

I just talked with the mechanics of the KTM shop in Salamanca, and he told me, if the size is ok, you can use them without any problems. However he also confirmed that they are little bit less hard than other options.
Please let me know until Thursday evening if I should try to get tyres in Cordoba.

CU

Lalli

sasplanet 14 Nov 2007 12:25

Hello Glynn
 
They only have a rear 140 80 18. Having made the elemetary mistake of not bringing tyres with me, I do not want to compound this further down the line. Being my first trip and being very green behind the ears I would feel more at ease if I had a new set.Your help would be most welcome.
Once again many thanks to you all for your help Horizons has been invaluable

Steve still smiling in Agadir

MotoEdde 14 Nov 2007 13:23

Relative to the size difference between 140-80-18 and the 150-70-18
here's what you need to know.

1. They will both carry the same maximum load and are load rated at 69.

2. The difference between the 80 and 70 is this...the 70 is a shorter tire, and you'll have less room to deflate the tire...not good...the reason you want to deflate the rear tire is to get better traction in sand, and to achieve a "longer" foot print when deflated...the longer foot print will along your tire to grab more of the traction in front of it when deflated. A taller tire deflated gives you this longer footprint and will allow you to carry a heavy load at a lower pressure...most desert vehicles prefer taller tires.

3. The 140 vs 150...this is a tire width issue and means more for street cornering...but you're on an enduro and some not on some sissy street bike like a K75s...so who cares!

ALSO keep in mind the number of plies on the thread and the sidewall...the more plies on the tread, the less puncture proof...the more plies on the sidewall, the more sturdy the sidewall at lower tire pressures. Be careful not to drop your sidewall pressure too low because your tire may come off the rim...

Scorpion is crap...a used Metzler or Micheling Desert may be better than a new Scorpion!

sasplanet 15 Nov 2007 14:47

Tyre saga
 
Thanks for the advice Eddie just had the Michelin Baja 3 Ply on rear fitted I dont think it will get me to South Africa. So Im hoping for a reply from Glynn, as I dont know the situation on tyres further down.Otherwise its a trip back to Spain

Steve Agadir

MotoEdde 15 Nov 2007 16:55

There are tyres available in Togo...I believe...and if your timing is good, possibly Dakar.

If you coincidentally follow the bivouac stops of the Dakar rallye, you may be able to pick up tires from those guys...new or used...may be better than the current tread! I ran into them a couple times, as there is quite a bit of leftover tires, parts, etc....that local moto shops pick up...ask the local motorcyclists!

I've read in the HUBB on a prior post that in Togo, there is some mechanic that can get a hold of tires...and Guinea is a good option to receive tires as well...it in the HUBB archived posts...sorry I couldn't offer more detail...

sasplanet 15 Nov 2007 18:14

Cheers Motoedde
 
The guys that fitted the tyre Said motors Chaim 2 Agadir
(big thanks Peter at Bikershome Ouzeratte by the way)
said the tyre would make it might wait for Glynn n pick his brains

So thanks Tim, Lalli,and everyone

javierCarrion 15 Nov 2007 20:17

hi ...

I am sure you can find it. You just have not tried hard.

1st :

In Ceuta , for example they got it . They have as much tyres available as in London. OK .. not all of them on stock , but overnightly you get absolutely every size in the Michellin/Meztec/Dunlop catalog . All the shops get stocked overnightly from Malaga , where there are absolutely every concevaible part. And probbably way cheapier. If spoken spanish is an issue I can help locating those for you by Phone .

2nd/ in Marrakech there is a fantastic motorcycle shop . The cater for harleys , KTMS , and even more exotic bikes. AS ussual , michelin catalog /pirelly all available . NOT ON THE SPOT , -it takes 1 day to get the stock- but that's ok ..

3rd . OK .. lets say that you don't fancy riding back north . You can still have a go in Dackla (yep , a lot of people change the tyres in Dakcla -swapping to knobblies (actually very pointless as ITs all tarmac now ) .. and there is quite a big stock on used -but useable- tyres in dackla.

etc..etc..

Also .. have you tried wemoto ( I think is Wemoto Home ? The ship to Gambia !!! They ship to Dakar , even they ship to f***ing Congo !! . Wouldnt' they ship to Agadir ? I doubt it . PRice of shipping (4 days ) a 17 inches rear knobble to Brazza : 40 Quid

have a nice day

javier
Viajes y Aventuras - Índice

Tim Cullis 15 Nov 2007 20:20

I met Dan and Linz at Bikershome, they are now a couple of weeks south of you. Anyway, in their blog they mention getting tyres shipped from the UK to The Gambia, see Senegal « Going Somewhere

Dan's email is dan -AT- melkin -dot- co -dot- uk

Tim

sasplanet 16 Nov 2007 14:36

Hi Glynn
 
Have just read Javiers entry wanted to swap tyre at ktm ceuta 3 weeks ago and they advised I would find in casa.This was not the case , so if you are still willing to bring tyres I would prefer this course as it means 5 day trip.

Steve Atlantic park Agadir

Glynn Roberts 18 Nov 2007 11:08

Tired?
 
Sent you a PM

Glynn

sasplanet 19 Nov 2007 08:35

Hi javier
 
Do you have info for bike shop in marakesh, looks like its there or ceuta.
Dont know if Glynn has time.

Steve Agadir.


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