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arunp 3 Jun 2008 11:55

Crossing into Georgia from Russia.. Please help!!
 
Greetings,
I am trying to go to Georgia so i can go to Turkey by car. I am planning to cross in Georgia from western border "Sochi" thus avoiding Grozny.
is this border good? and is it open?
are there any other option to cross in Georgia?
Thank you all for the help.
Regards
arun

arun@drivearoundtheworld.net

motobelka 3 Jun 2008 20:51

NO NOT POSSIBLE BY ANY MEANS
there is a country called Abhasia between Russia and Georgia ( very beautiful place by the way Àðõåîëîãèÿ è ýòíîãðàôèÿ Àáõàçèè - kolhida.ru - the Kolhida from Jason and the argonauts ).
this country is in a war with Georgia since 1996. last incident was less then a month ago.
nobody crosses Georgian-Abhazian border near Sukhumi alive for at least 10 years.
thus another tresspass exists in the mountains - but it's totally unofficial and i doubt a foreigner can use it.
the only way from russia to georgia on the ground (from krasnodar region where you are (?) now) is krasnodar-Stavrpol-elista-mahachkala-baku- tbilisi. look here http://www.photoshare.ru/original/ph....ru-981214.jpg
sochi is a dead end if only you're not going by ferry.
Sochi-Trabzon(TR) ferry is the easiest way in your situation. she goes three or four times a week and not very expensive.
sorry you'll miss georgia

colebatch 3 Jun 2008 21:45

Exactly what Belka said ... The border is closed. There is loose talk of re-opening it somewhere near the end of the year, but it totally wont happen while the Abkhazia pot is as volatile as it is now.

As mentioned above... you will have to drive from Russia to Azerbaijan (via Dagestan) and then cross from Azerbaijan to Georgia. .... After which you will be able to drive to Turkey.

arunp 6 Jun 2008 16:08

Thank you guys
 
does ferry take cars?
How can I cross in Azerbaijan from Russia?
Thanks a lot.
This is a great help.
regards
arun

motobelka 7 Jun 2008 19:34

ferry does take cars

look for exact route at the link i gave you.
went that way last fall - totally safe but remember to find hotel in central Mahachkala before dark (very important).
the hotel is right opposit VOENKOMAT (military office) in the very center

where r you at the moment? call +7 926 2460066 if lost i'll tell you the way out.

Chris of Japan 12 Jun 2008 07:27

Ferry to Georgia
 
Is there not a ferry that goes between
Batumi (Georgia) <-> Poti (Georgia) <-> Sochi (Russia) ??

Ship Mikhail Svetlov (95 passengers/2 autos)
Sails 2 times/week according to this website in Russian Commercial Sea Port of Sochi
My Russian is very poor. Is this correct motobelka?

motobelka 12 Jun 2008 17:45

arunp please understand there is NO connection between RUS and Georgia.NOT AT ALL. not on the ground not in the sea. at the moment Geo government is hostile to Rus that's the reason. the only way to get to GEO from rus is thru Dagestan and Azeri. m. svetlov goes to Turky. if u r poor at Russian catch any friendly englishspeaking creature and ask for translation

Maguest 14 Jun 2008 08:35

Closed
 
We are in Georgia now on a motorcycle. We went up on the georgian military highway till we reached the russian border. It is closed, writen with big letters: "Border Locked" and there are soldiers quarding it. It's closed for everybody, be it Georgian, Russian or from any other country. Sorry about the bad news. We will head tomorrow into Azerbaidjan and continue east across the Caspian.

Regards

arunp 14 Jun 2008 18:40

Sochi, Russia
 
We arrived in Sochi today and most probably will board the ferry to Tarbazon, Turkey tomorrow. Just bought the tickets 15300 rubles.
There is no fixed time but there is a chance it will leave tomorrow.
will update you.
Thanks for all the help, specially Nadia from Moscow.
Best
arun
arun@drivearoundtheworld.net

asilindean 30 Jun 2011 09:47

Sochi to Trabzon ferry
 
Hi,

We are leaving tomorrow for a loop around the Black Sea and plan to take the ferry from Schi to Tranzon.

Do you have any updates on the schedule of the ferry?
Which route did you take and how was the road to Sochi? any problems with police or at the border?

Thanks,
Adrian

Quote:

Originally Posted by arunp (Post 194393)
We arrived in Sochi today and most probably will board the ferry to Tarbazon, Turkey tomorrow. Just bought the tickets 15300 rubles.
There is no fixed time but there is a chance it will leave tomorrow.
will update you.
Thanks for all the help, specially Nadia from Moscow.
Best
arun
arun@drivearoundtheworld.net


strimstrum 30 Jun 2011 10:10

If we want to take the route Dagestan into Azerbaijan then Georgia to Turkey will our Russian multi entry visas be OK to engter Dagastan. I know it is a republic of the Russian Federation but does Dagestan have any borders or travel restrictions/special permits of its own does anyone know ?

Chris of Japan 30 Jun 2011 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by strimstrum (Post 340942)
If we want to take the route Dagestan into Azerbaijan then Georgia to Turkey will our Russian multi entry visas be OK to engter Dagastan. I know it is a republic of the Russian Federation but does Dagestan have any borders or travel restrictions/special permits of its own does anyone know ?

Is it OK for foreigners to go between Russia and Azerbaijan now? I was reading a travel blog the other day by a Japanese guy traveling by train. He was turned back at the border and had to take a plane. I would imagine the situation is even more strict for operators of private vehicles. One would imagine the international border to be more difficult than the inter-republic border.

motobelka 5 Jul 2011 15:21

RUS-AZ border thru Dagestan is for CIS citizens only.
no way a non-CIS person can enter Rus on Caucasis ground.
if you go from Turkey ( Geo or Az or Armenia) ride thru Tegheran and Kaz. if have no time take a Sochi-Trabzon ferry

asilindean 25 Jul 2011 13:08

Short briefing on our Black Sea Tour 2011
 
Short briefing on our Black Sea Tour 2011
- I shall cross post this in all the related topics on the Hubb to be seen by as many. If you have questions please ask and I will answer as soon as I can -
In the first 2 weeks of July 2011 we had circumnavigate around the Black Sea (Romania – Moldova - Ukraina – Russia – Turcia – Bulgaria – Romania). That would be around 18 days, 4200 km, 6 countries and 2 ferries.
The only downside of the trip was the fact that for foreigners (non CIS, Russian or Georgian citizens) it is impossible to cross the border from Russia to Georgia.
The only way for foreigners is to take a ferry either from Trabzon in Turkey to Sochi Russia, or the other way around from Sochi to Trabzon. The ferry does not have a clear schedule (it runs according to the information posted on the website of Sochi port once a week) and it’s pretty expensive (2 persons in one cabin without a window and the bike 16.500 Rubles / 650 USD). The phone numbers posted on the site are working and the lady from Kassa 5 (where you buy the ticket) speaks a bit of English.
Note: when you buy the tickets you must have your passport with you and bike registration.
Website of Sochi port: Commercial Sea Port of Sochi
In theory, according to some information I found on here and from various people, it is possible to enter Georgia, from there to enter Abhazia (which is according to Georgia part of their territory) and from Abhazia to cross into Russia since Russia recognise Abhazia as independent country. I also heard that for Abhazia you need visa. We didn’t try it thou.
We didn’t had any problems at the border crossings. Some were slow but you expect that. Entering Ukraine we were not requested to fill the immigration form and we were not asked for it on exit.
At Kerch/Krym Port when you buy the tickets you must have your passport with you and bike registration.
Entering Russia one had to fill the immigration paper (they have a bilingual version also in English which they handed to us on the ferry) and another paper for the temporary import of the bike. Hold well onto that paper since without it your bike shall remain in Russia. At least this is what I understand from the lady making the papers.
We crossed the border at Kerch/Kavkaz by ferry. It was a 90 minutes process on the Russian side, again no problems. The road from the border to Novorossiysk is good. Novorossiysk is a pain to cross due to traffic. From there to Sochi is was hell. Aprox 260 km of 2 lane slow traffic, lots of lorries and POLICE. Lots of them, with cameras. DO NOT CROSS THE WHITE LINE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. Although we were not stopped it was stressful. From the border to Sochi, 10 hours riding, with 3 brakes for gas and coffee. We arrived there Friday and as luck turns out the ferry was schedule to leave Saturday. Exiting Russia, we were told to be at 6 at the check point. Two hours later, with the border formalities done, we boarded the ferry. The passenger must go with the pedestrians and only the driver/rider remains in the vehicle for border formalities. No problems again. The ferry left after 8 in the evening and arrived on Sunday morning in Trabzon around 8.30. It was Sunday so the Turkish customs guys were not in a hurry. We with the bike were processed the very last after 3 and a half hours. The one with Russian cars paid some bribes. They did not ask any from us.
Note: for Highways in Turkey one must pay. You can buy special cards from petrol stations. The fines are pretty hefty. We did not and all the bells and alarms went of when exiting the highway.

gagarin 17 Sep 2011 08:54

Georgia to Russia @ Vladikavkaz
 
"The only downside of the trip was the fact that for foreigners (non CIS, Russian or Georgian citizens) it is impossible to cross the border from Russia to Georgia."

Thought I thought it was not possible, some of my friends DID CROSS the border from Georgia to Russia about 2 weeks ago. Non CIS residents, not Russians, not Georgians with a simple tourist visa.

I'll talk to them soon so get all the details...


g.

motobelka 19 Sep 2011 08:27

as it's not the first post about RUS-GEO border crossed by non-CIS residents we all can be happy now with another open route.
pls, ask your friend for exact name of the border crossing point. pics will be nice too:cool4:

gagarin 19 Sep 2011 10:25

Border
 
I'll hopefully meet them later this week.
Where are the other posts re. the GEO-RUS border crossing?

g.

motobelka 19 Sep 2011 15:20

last page of "Black Sea Coast Road: Georgia to Ukraine"

gagarin 21 Sep 2011 10:31

Lovely. Thanks! Awesome news.


g.

sudstrom 16 Oct 2011 15:50

crossing Russia / Georgia IS possible!!
 
Hello everybody,

I met a russian guy on the Georgian Military HIghway going from Tiflisi to Vladikafkas.
He told me that he met 3 travellers (non-russians) crossed there.

He crossed himself and asked for border crossing when non-russian. He was told crossing from Georgia to Russia IS possible.

I am not sure about the other directions though, but it is worth checking.

Andy

Revenue 8 Jan 2012 05:12

Has anyone anymore news on the border crossing from Tbilisi into Russia, i would like to cross August this year??

Samy 9 Jan 2012 05:47

C l o s e d
 
It is closed.

I bet with a friend in Tbilisi if it will be open in less than 10 years !

Revenue 11 Jan 2012 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samy (Post 362311)
It is closed.

I bet with a friend in Tbilisi if it will be open in less than 10 years !

Wow many conflicting reports have a Russian guy on another forum saying its open, i guess will just have to ride there to see, and if not shoot back and catch a ferryfrom Trabzon..doh:confused1::confused1:

Samy 13 Jan 2012 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revenue (Post 362624)
Wow many conflicting reports have a Russian guy on another forum saying its open, i guess will just have to ride there to see, and if not shoot back and catch a ferryfrom Trabzon..doh:confused1::confused1:

Hi,
It is Abkhasia under Russian management and separated from Georgia. Local Abkhazians who live in Abkhazia or someone who has close relatives are allowed to pass to Abkhazi by Georgian and Abkhazian (Russian) authorities. Some Russians may allowed to Georgia or to Abkhazia (possible).

If we are talking for a foreigner like you and me ! FORGET IT...

I hope it is clear...

Samy 15 Feb 2012 08:18

sorry no information about the borders.

I tried to make a telephone call to Georgia-Russia border at Georgia side.
2 different friends tried to find out if it is open or not. And they can't find the correct answer.

I think it is closed...

Dazzerrtw 15 Feb 2012 10:48

To try to get to the bottom of this I rang the British Embassy in Georgia { Tbilisi + 995 32 2274747 }
The Lady was very helpful .

She told me that anyone with a Valid UK passport wanting to enter Georgia from Turkey is permitted to enter Georgia , But you can NOT leave Georgia via the Georgian Russian boarder. This is closed.

Hope this is of Help.

we now need to re plan our route into Russia :helpsmilie:

Dazzer and Leigh

Revenue 24 Mar 2012 02:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzerrtw (Post 367465)
To try to get to the bottom of this I rang the British Embassy in Georgia { Tbilisi + 995 32 2274747 }
The Lady was very helpful .

She told me that anyone with a Valid UK passport wanting to enter Georgia from Turkey is permitted to enter Georgia , But you can NOT leave Georgia via the Georgian Russian boarder. This is closed.

Hope this is of Help.

we now need to re plan our route into Russia :helpsmilie:

Dazzer and Leigh

Hi Dazzer
Have you planned the new route yet to avoid the Georgia/ Russian border??

Eric

Hemuli 24 Mar 2012 08:06

Seems like Georgia - Russia and Azerbaijan - Russia border crossing is quite unsure.
Has anyone crossed Caspian sea from Baku to Kazakhstan?
There seems to be ferries going from Baku to Aktau The Azerbaijan State Caspian Sea Shipping company - About the Company- Transportations

colebatch 24 Mar 2012 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemuli (Post 372604)
Seems like Georgia - Russia and Azerbaijan - Russia border crossing is quite unsure.
Has anyone crossed Caspian sea from Baku to Kazakhstan?
There seems to be ferries going from Baku to Aktau The Azerbaijan State Caspian Sea Shipping company - About the Company- Transportations

Quite a few people have crossed there in recent years. Its increasingly popular due to the difficulties in getting Turkmen visas. People are going via Aktau, Beyneu and Norther Uzbekistan instead.

asilindean 13 May 2012 20:10

Crossing from Georgia to Russia via Kazbegi/Vladikavkaz border point May 2012:
 
Went Friday 11 May 2012 up from Tbilisi to Kazbegi via Georgian Military Highway. The road is very nice, except for the crossing over the pass, where you have 14 km of really bad road. The rest is brand new and fun to ride.
Went up to the border point,parked the bike and asked the guy from custom if I can cross as a non russian/georgian/CIS citizen the border. The answer was YES YOU CAN!
I asked then again, and mentioned that last year the border was closed for foreigners. They said yes, it was closed but now it's open, it is ok to cross to Russia. If you have a russian visa, of course.
I did not crossed because I wanted to go to Azerbaijan and from there to Turmenistan on the way to Mongolia and Siberia.

Revenue 13 May 2012 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by asilindean (Post 378929)
Went Friday 11 May 2012 up from Tbilisi to Kazbegi via Georgian Military Highway. The road is very nice, except for the crossing over the pass, where you have 14 km of really bad road. The rest is brand new and fun to ride.
Went up to the border point,parked the bike and asked the guy from custom if I can cross as a non russian/georgian/CIS citizen the border. The answer was YES YOU CAN!
I asked then again, and mentioned that last year the border was closed for foreigners. They said yes, it was closed but now it's open, it is ok to cross to Russia. If you have a russian visa, of course.
I did not crossed because I wanted to go to Azerbaijan and from there to Turmenistan on the way to Mongolia and Siberia.


Great News

Eric :D


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