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m37charlie 27 Jan 2017 15:18

I entered from the north in early July 2017 and left from the NW in late July and there was no deposit. The "car" was a U500 Unicat camper that even though it is 10 years old is probably worth close to US$200K.

Charlie

fnormet 27 Jan 2017 17:11

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Originally Posted by m37charlie (Post 555972)
I entered from the north in early July 2017 and left from the NW in late July and there was no deposit. The "car" was a U500 Unicat camper that even though it is 10 years old is probably worth close to US$200K.

Charlie

I presume you mean 2016.

m37charlie 27 Jan 2017 22:00

I'm very sorry, you are right, it was last summer, July 2016.
Charlie

moggy 1968 5 Feb 2017 22:45

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Originally Posted by m37charlie (Post 555972)
I entered from the north in early July 2017 and left from the NW in late July and there was no deposit. The "car" was a U500 Unicat camper that even though it is 10 years old is probably worth close to US$200K.

Charlie

I'm thinking that may be because that doesn't look much like your average banger car rally participant!!

Forestwiz 10 Apr 2017 10:46

I did contact a shipping company that should deliver my bike to UB.I was told there is 15.5% deposit needed that will be sent back to my account after I leave to Russia.it is new to me! any experience on this?
and how about Russia ,and EU? (I own a Thai registered bike)

cheers guys

Forestwiz 10 Apr 2017 11:58

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Originally Posted by fnormet (Post 555758)
So I've sent an enquiry to the Mongolian Customs office and got a reply with a pdf document titled "Advice for foreign passengers travelling with own vehicles".

I just finished reading the two page document and this is the only thing it says about the deposit:



I've attached the entire document to this post as well. I sent another enquiry to the Mongolian embassy in Stockholm and will see if I get conflicting info or not.

I d love to hear too..cheers

fnormet 10 Apr 2017 16:16

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Originally Posted by Forestwiz (Post 561158)
I d love to hear too..cheers

I got conflicting information and the embassy didn't respond to the e-mails after the initial one.

I'll get myself the visa and just go for it. Worst case scenario is that I'll waste a day at the border. If everything goes as hoped, you'll know around the middle of July.

Pepa 10 Apr 2017 17:03

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Originally Posted by fnormet (Post 561167)
I got conflicting information and the embassy didn't respond to the e-mails after the initial one.

I'll get myself the visa and just go for it. Worst case scenario is that I'll waste a day at the border. If everything goes as hoped, you'll know around the middle of July.

I’ve got conflicting information also. I have e-mailed the embassy in Sofia, they answered back that they don’t know and gave me the e-mail of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to contact them. Well, I did but they never answered back. We plan to do the same, get our visa and just go, we plan to cross from the western border. I was wondering, in case they ask for the deposit in the western border, if we can cross without it from the main Ulan-Ude Ulan-Bator border. I read somewhere that they don’t ask for deposit there. Also, does anybody know if a Carnet would help?

Pepa 17 Apr 2017 11:41

Deposit
 
For your information about the deposit. I e-mailed Mongolian Customs and got the same reply with the pdf as fnormet. I asked for clarification about the necessity of a Carnet and a clear answer about the deposit for car that enters for tourist purposes, as I thought the pdf document was not a 100% clear. The answer was that: “Carnet is not necessary. No tax is required for customs within the specified time frame. When leaving the car in Mongolia, it has to be stored with a bonded warehouse. You will have to pay warehouse fee. It can vary depending on the warehouse operator. More details have to be obtained from the warehouse of your selection. If you leave your car for good or sell it on the local market, you will have to pay customs duties, VAT and excise duty. If the car is damaged or broken, you will have to ship it back.” I think this is clear enough, no deposit asked. And I think Customs is more reliable than any Embassy.

Forestwiz 17 Apr 2017 12:17

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Originally Posted by Pepa (Post 561648)
For your information about the deposit. I e-mailed Mongolian Customs and got the same reply with the pdf as fnormet. I asked for clarification about the necessity of a Carnet and a clear answer about the deposit for car that enters for tourist purposes, as I thought the pdf document was not a 100% clear. The answer was that: “Carnet is not necessary. No tax is required for customs within the specified time frame. When leaving the car in Mongolia, it has to be stored with a bonded warehouse. You will have to pay warehouse fee. It can vary depending on the warehouse operator. More details have to be obtained from the warehouse of your selection. If you leave your car for good or sell it on the local market, you will have to pay customs duties, VAT and excise duty. If the car is damaged or broken, you will have to ship it back.” I think this is clear enough, no deposit asked. And I think Customs is more reliable than any Embassy.

Ibelieve there is difference when u ship or enter the border ON the bike.
2 shipping companies quoted me the same 15.5% deposit via bank that will (?) return to your account after u leave(?)

Pepa 17 Apr 2017 15:00

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Originally Posted by Forestwiz (Post 561653)
Ibelieve there is difference when u ship or enter the border ON the bike.
2 shipping companies quoted me the same 15.5% deposit via bank that will (?) return to your account after u leave(?)

Maybe you could ship the bike in Russia near the border and then drive it to Mongolia? I have never heard of any custom/deposit problems in Russia. That is if you have a Russian visa.

Forestwiz 17 Apr 2017 19:19

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Originally Posted by Pepa (Post 561665)
Maybe you could ship the bike in Russia near the border and then drive it to Mongolia? I have never heard of any custom/deposit problems in Russia. That is if you have a Russian visa.

u are correct .Russia do not need deposit ,but my destination is Europe and possibily further so I will get ATA carnet and speed up the process everywhere.I am tryinto ship the bike directly to UB,which saves me lots of kms .and I start in Mongolia where i want to ride preferably bier

Klaas van der Meer 12 Jul 2017 02:25

No deposit required for Mongolia
 
Hello everybody,
I am now in Mongolia. I entred a week ago over the Northern border. The customs did not ask for any deposit! They wanted a carnet, but after some discussion they let me through without, they gave me the TIP (Temporary Import Paper).
Other travellers I met here in Mongolia crossed the same and other borders and where also not asked for a deposit and mostly not for the carnet.
So my question on this forum is now defenitly aswered: NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED FOR MONGOLIA.
Thanks to all for you help,
Klaas

guusakkermans 7 Jun 2018 12:52

Hi Klaas,

What did you do with your bike in Mongolia? Did you sell it or leave it there? Do you know if that is possible?

Kind regards,

Guus Akkermans
Ps going for a motorcycle trip to Mongolia this summer

Dr650_Jam 21 Jun 2018 19:46

Does anyone have the latest status?

I'm currently traveling to Mongolia by motorbike and want to ship it back to Europe from UB.


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