i'm planing a trip to Russia - mongolia, needs of info.
 

Hello guys


I'm planing a trip with a honda dominator 650-93 with 30k miles , through Russia until mongolia. Any info about bording crossing with motorbike, visa, tips etc, is wellcome.
Does anyone know how much roughfully is butget per day in russia?

What is the best moment-season to do the trip?

Does someone kown how to extend the visa (turist visa) for russia more than a month, as I intend to stay longuer?

Thanks for reading.

Regards

Hi Alcasi: I live in Mongolia, so if you will be riding to Mongolia also, let me know if you have any questions about Mongolia.

The best time to come across Siberia and into Mongolia is June-September. Other months are too cold.

Scott

Hi Scott
Thanks for your reply. Is there any problem to cross the border russia-mongolia with motorbike? which is the best crossing border between russia-mongolia?
Regards

I don't believe there is a way to extend a Russian tourist visa beyond one month. To stay longer, you would need to get a business visa, which can be done without the need to actually be in Russia on business - in other words, a tourist can get a business visa legally and without undue difficulty. They're valid for anwhere from 3 to 12 months, and can be single, double, or multiple entry.

There's a lot of info available on-line through various visa agencies which assist in getting a Russian visa. Try a search for "Russian visa" and you'll turn up dozens of such agencies.

Good luck. Hope this helps.

Mike

No problem crossing into Mongolia with a motorbike. No requirement for a carnet or any other special document. There are three Russia/Mongolia border crossing open to foreigners. One is in the far northwest, one is in the northeast of Mongolia, and the last is on the main road from Ulan Ude to Ulaanbaatar, directly north of Ulaanbaatar about 370 km.

That one, on the main road, is the best and easiest. The road is quite good and the border officers are used to seeing foreigners. It is about 5 hours from the border to Ulaanbaatar.

The other two can be used but you will have to travel many days off road.

-Scott

Hi Scott and Mike.

I am also planning to cross into Mongolia from Russia in August 2005. Based on some research I have done, I believe there is a border crossing at Hanh/Mondy near Hovsgol Nuur. Have you heard of this ?

Hi guys

Just i 'd like to thank you for your infos.

Regards

Hi Adrian: There is a border crossing at the north end of Huvsgul Lake, but it is generally open only to Russians and Mongolians. I have known some other foreigners who have made it through there, but only by arranging permission in advance with both the Mongolian and Russian Foreign Ministries. It's not easy and can be very expensive. It's usually done only by large group tours or scientific expeditions.

Let me know if you need any more info about overland in Mongolia.

-Scott

A mate just sent me this page which you may find useful:
<http://dreamers1.com/russia/Practicalities/Russia_Mongolia_Practicalities.htm>http://dreamers1.com/russia/Practica...ticalities.htm

Chris S

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hello
i put some practical info on my website, i was in central asia russia mongolia iran pakistan in 2002, it may have changed a bit though :

http://vincent.danna.free.fr/infos/index.html

good luck, enjoy

Hello,

I'll be in Mongolia next August for 4 weeks coming overland through Russia.
I'd like to visit the Gurvan Saykhan reserve near Dalanzadgad.
Could someone tell me how much water I need to carry on the bike during this season,
or, let's say for example, is there water between Mandalgov and Dalanzadgad ?
or : is it a bad idea to visit this area in summertime ?
thanks in adance for any tip(s) on the matter.
Corentin

Hi Corentin: You should always carry a few liters with you in case your bike breaks and you are stranded, but there is water available from wells fairly frequently in the Gobi. Dalanzagad to Mandalgobi is less than a day's ride, so unless your bike dies you won't need to find extra water between those two towns.

If you go off the main tracks, you should consider taking more water, since a breakdown in the more remote areas could mean days before someone finds you. But on the main tracks between towns there are at least 4 or 5 vehicles per day, so you would only have to wait a few hours before someone found you.

Are you coming this August, or August 2006? I live in Ulaanbaatar and I can give you some GPS points for the Gurvan Saykhan reserve and other Gobi sites if you want them.

Let me know if you need any more info on riding in Mongolia. You can email me directly so we don't hijack Alcasi's thread anymore. My email is: weinholds at state.gov

-Scott

I drowe from Finland to Vladivostok and back last summer.

To make trip takes 54 days and 2000 Euros.

I dont cook anything during trip and i slept "at wood" about 10 nights and rest in hotel.

Pekka

>Does anyone know how much roughfully is >butget per day in russia?

No problem crossing into Mongolia with a motorbike. No requirement for a carnet or any other special document. There are three Russia/Mongolia border crossing open to foreigners. One is in the far northwest, one is in the northeast of Mongolia, and the last is on the main road from Ulan Ude to Ulaanbaatar, directly north of Ulaanbaatar about 370 km.

That one, on the main road, is the best and easiest. The road is quite good and the border officers are used to seeing foreigners. It is about 5 hours from the border to Ulaanbaatar.

The other two can be used but you will have to travel many days off road.

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Dear Scott,

I am Taiwanese and live in Taiwan.

My wife and I are planing a trip from Vladivostok (Russia) throuth Siberian to Germany in year 2006 or 2007.

I plan ship my own BMW F650 GS DK to Vladivostok. of course I would like to visit Mongolia and you in ULAANBAATAR if you welcome us.

But Do I need to apply any documents for my BMW to Russia and Mongolia ?

Could you give me suggestions the routes to your country from Russia?

I do not have experience ship my bike out of my country, I need international bike friends help me and share your experience.

Thanks

Is there any Fuel/Gas stations problem ? Do I need to carry extra gas ?

Is there easy to find hotels to stay?

Hi LKK.

I have not ridden in Russia, but you do not need a carnet for Russia or Mongolia. For lots of good information on practical issues of riding in Russia and Mongolia, see Geoff's post in this forum. His website has a lot of good stuff on the basic details.

You should not have to carry extra gas, but make sure to fill up whenever you are leaving a town. Hotels are pretty easy to find in large Mongolian cities, but hard to find in the countryside. If you come in the summer Mongolia has a lot of ger camps where you can stay in a yurt. I don't know about hotels in Russia.

To get to Mongolia from Russia is easy. Just ride to Ulan Ude, and then take the road south to the Mongolian border. The road is good (paved) all the way to Ulaanbaatar from the Russian border.

-Scott

Hi,

I went to Russia from UK via Denmark Norway and Finland last year. When your in Russia i think you are supposed to register yourself as an alien (visitor) within 24hrs of entering the country, or you risk a fine (it is not a big fine)

You should buy your bike insurance at the border when you cross it, and you have to have an invitation into Russia when you apply for you russian visa, this is usually obtained from the hotel or hostal you have booked with.

Buy law you are supposed to carry a fire extingusher, first aid kit and warning triangle on your vehicle. I did carry these with me and i did get stopped for speeding by the cops, they never checked if i had any these items. I think he looked at the amount of stuff i was carrying on my bike and could not be bothered to unstrap everything, in the end i gave him a ten dollar bribe which i was told was the accepted amount there, though he did ask for twenty! Make sure you have all your bike documents and copies in case you lose the originals, and you need an international driving license.

I was i bit worried before i went to russia because i was riding alone. Everybody had horror stories to tell me about the country, but i loved it there, and can't wait to go back one day. Just take the usual precautions you would take anywhere else.

I found not a lot of English was spoken so a Russian translation book may help you,I am fortunate as my first spoken languge was Greek so i could read the cyrilic alphabet.

The motorbike, cigerettes and knowledge of european football helped break the ice when talking to people. Take Roubles and US dollars there, they like them to be new notes and take them in small denominations, for bribes and when you make small purchases.

There are not a lot of road signs in Russia so make sure you have a map.

I hope this helps


Maverick bubble

Hi Scott & Maverick bubble

Thanks for your reply and good message for me.

Excause me where is" Geoff's post "

Jeff

LKK - and others - Get used to using the search facility above, it works really well -

in: HUBB only

match: all

geoff russia

gets 8 hits - one of them this thread - the others won't take long to sift through. http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Hi Scott, me and two buddies are heading up in Aug/Sep, from Vietnam. We're keen to drive those Planetas becaue they seem just like the Ischs that are still here in Vietnam. Any way we can get into touch?



[This message has been edited by Digby Vietnam (edited 27 April 2005).]

Digby: Be glad to help if I can. My email address is weinholds at state dot gov. I lived in Saigon from 1999-2001. Had an old Lambretta scooter for getting around there, though I did have a Minsk for a while also.

Regards,

Scott