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Fredski 30 Sep 2016 11:00

I at the kirklareli border crossing between Bulgaria and turkey now and the one Green Card insurance guy is insisting on charging me 230 euros as the lowest rate.
A local called his agency in Bulgaria and was told that they can no.longer issue green card insurance for turkey, that it must be arranged at the border.

Is this a shake down? Or are these the new rates for motorcycle green card insurance?


Quote:

Originally Posted by bonnie25 (Post 543941)
I entered Turkey from Bulgaria about 6 weeks ago. Insurance for a motorbike was 84.98tl (€25).

I also had to unpack everything for a search - took 2 hours in tota - pre-Istanbul attack. Lots of police check points in Kurdish areas - I was stopped a lot.
If you haven't got your visa already, park before the booths and go through the building to the Turkey-Bulgaria side, in booth 54 you can buy a visa. Why it's on the other side is beyond me.


M.Aziz 30 Sep 2016 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredski (Post 548293)
I at the kirklareli border crossing between Bulgaria and turkey now and the one Green Card insurance guy is insisting on charging me 230 euros as the lowest rate.
A local called his agency in Bulgaria and was told that they can no.longer issue green card insurance for turkey, that it must be arranged at the border.

Is this a shake down? Or are these the new rates for motorcycle green card insurance?

I came through Cesme port from Piraeus 2 months ago. I had big problems getting insurance as they said i needed a national identity number to buy it, BIG MISTAKE trying to talk in my broken Turkish. Fortunately my family knew a guy in Australia who knows a guy in Turkey, that knows a guy that issues insurance. To this day i don't know how they got around the fact that i didn't have this number.
I spent 10 hours at the port waiting for word if i was spending the night at the customs yard, 5 minutes before closing the papers came in.
I didn't pay for the insurance as the guy that was a friend of the family is a rider aswell and he was just happy to help me out.
The price on the insurance paper i have is $85.69 TL for 3 months.
I didn't end up buying it but i could have got a green card from Alessia which does cover Turkey. From memory 1 month cover was $249 Euros and 3 months was approximaetly $449 Euros. Her contact details if you need it, i can't vouch for her though as i didn't end up purchasing it.

Maria M. Alessie
alessie@alessie.com
Eliotplaats 174
3068 VL Rotterdam
The Netherlands
Tel +31 10 4 555 946

Mehmet Zeki Avar 30 Sep 2016 19:02

I replied your personal message but now I see that there is a mistake in the question or ı got it wrong.answer will be good for everybody so here goes my reply..

1-You dont need to buy green card insurance to enter turkey from west.If your green card doesnt cover turkey,you can buy turkish road insurance (karayolları mali sorumluluk sigorta poliçesi) at any gate for,1 month or more periods...If any office doesnt sell, tell the gate police and customs stuff and make a high noise..(personal idea and what ı do while at the same situation) price depends on vehicle and is about 80 tl.for a bike for 3 months as the travellers told me this year..no idea for 4 or more wheeled ones..

2-Turkey has 3 bordergates with bulgaria and you are at the smallest one for kırklareli city.experienced ones are the ones to edirne city,named kapıkule and hamzabeyli..

Kapıkule Edirne from Bulgaristan Kapitan Andreevo Tabliczka road E80.

Hamzabeyli Edirne from Bulgaristan Lesovo road.7.

3-For those exiting turkey and heading europe or entering turkey from east..price for green card(covering Turkey also) is the same with every country starting with 63 euros for 3 months..

Here is the link to Turkish Touring and automobile club webpage..they have offices at all bordergates of turkey(except kırklareli) and issue all kind of insurances,green card,etc..

Türkiye Turing ve Otomobil Kurumu

all the best...

sandrodz 7 Jun 2017 06:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehmet Zeki Avar (Post 548320)
I replied your personal message but now I see that there is a mistake in the question or ı got it wrong.answer will be good for everybody so here goes my reply..

1-You dont need to buy green card insurance to enter turkey from west.If your green card doesnt cover turkey,you can buy turkish road insurance (karayolları mali sorumluluk sigorta poliçesi) at any gate for,1 month or more periods...If any office doesnt sell, tell the gate police and customs stuff and make a high noise..(personal idea and what ı do while at the same situation) price depends on vehicle and is about 80 tl.for a bike for 3 months as the travellers told me this year..no idea for 4 or more wheeled ones..

2-Turkey has 3 bordergates with bulgaria and you are at the smallest one for kırklareli city.experienced ones are the ones to edirne city,named kapıkule and hamzabeyli..

Kapıkule Edirne from Bulgaristan Kapitan Andreevo Tabliczka road E80.

Hamzabeyli Edirne from Bulgaristan Lesovo road.7.

3-For those exiting turkey and heading europe or entering turkey from east..price for green card(covering Turkey also) is the same with every country starting with 63 euros for 3 months..

Here is the link to Turkish Touring and automobile club webpage..they have offices at all bordergates of turkey(except kırklareli) and issue all kind of insurances,green card,etc..

Türkiye Turing ve Otomobil Kurumu

all the best...

Hello! Info about green card purchase in Turkey is scarce, and I've read some of your posts and they were informative. Thanks for taking time :)

I'm traveling with car from Georgia to Italy passing through Turkey. Do you think I can purchase international green card on the Georgia/Turkey border? any indication of price in 2017?

What about turing.org.tr is that a club? can I purchase green card from them? Do I've to walk into their office in Istanbul or this can be purchased on the border?

I would PM you but there is 3 min post limit.
Sorry for necromancing an old post.

dooby 7 Jun 2017 18:01

Hi Sandro,

we have been in touch already yesterday over emails.

To answer to your question, yes you can buy insurance at the border between Georgia and Turkey, but I'm not sure if you can buy policy directly from Touring.org in Turkey. I would say more no then yes.

Let me know if you need any more info.

Cheers
Dooby

LC8Joe 8 Jun 2017 20:47

FYI
 
The insurance that you can get at the border is not a green card, I explicitly asked for it and they said it only covers Turkey.

dooby 23 Jun 2017 20:10

It's a green card for Turkey LC8Joe, and you can buy it at the border, do not know what's not clear here LC8Joe?

Cheers
Dooby

aospeed 9 Sep 2017 20:05

Turkey insurance at border
 
Georgia to Turkey border update as of 7 Sept 2017. You cannot buy motorcycle insurance for Turkey at the Vale-Posof border post. They will only do motorcar insurance there. If you can get Green Card cover including Turkey they will accept email confirmation even if you don't have the hard copy. Without that you have to go to Batumi and go through the Sarpi borber post as we just had to. They have an insurance kiosk near the immigration counter. Min 3 month cover for Euro35. Hope this helps!!

jordanrtw 29 Dec 2017 16:01

My experience
 
Hi all
I've just come across into Turkey from Bulgaria via the crossing at Kapitan Andropov to Kapikule.
I paid 20 euro and 80 lira for a grand total of 38 euro for 3 months :) i just asked to mix to use the last euro note in my wallet.
No interest in my Carnet. Just had my German passport with no visa, the registration doc for my Australian bike and then the insurance documents and they sent me straight through.

dooby 1 Jan 2018 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanrtw (Post 576105)
Hi all
I've just come across into Turkey from Bulgaria via the crossing at Kapitan Andropov to Kapikule.
I paid 20 euro and 80 lira for a grand total of 38 euro for 3 months :) i just asked to mix to use the last euro note in my wallet.
No interest in my Carnet. Just had my German passport with no visa, the registration doc for my Australian bike and then the insurance documents and they sent me straight through.

Interesting fact in the last 6 months is that people entering Turkey from different directions are buying obviously fake policies on many border crossings, because the price is regulated by the national body and in Turkey that is what Mehmet has generously linked for everyone (even his price from the post is not correct one) Turing: Türkiye Turing ve Otomobil Kurumu
Same thing is happening in Bosnia and some other countries as well (Albania and Kosovo are issuing digital document and all of them I have seen or held in hand were fully in line with the prices defined by their national governing body).

It's nice when you save some money for gas, food etc, but not a nice thing if something badly happens. Holding a fake insurance policy in hand is calling for a trouble.

It's just a warning so people take note, and take care of themselves.

Cheers
Dooby

jordanrtw 3 Jan 2018 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frgich (Post 576223)
Interesting fact in the last 6 months is that people entering Turkey from different directions are buying obviously fake policies on many border crossings, because the price is regulated by the national body and in Turkey that is what Mehmet has generously linked for everyone (even his price from the post is not correct one) Turing: Türkiye Turing ve Otomobil Kurumu
Same thing is happening in Bosnia and some other countries as well (Albania and Kosovo are issuing digital document and all of them I have seen or held in hand were fully in line with the prices defined by their national governing body).

It's nice when you save some money for gas, food etc, but not a nice thing if something badly happens. Holding a fake insurance policy in hand is calling for a trouble.

It's just a warning so people take note, and take care of themselves.

Cheers
Dooby

Does it seem that mine is the fake policy then?
I bought it inside the border crossing compound near (if i remember correctly inspection bay B) where there is a large sign stating Sigorta/Insurance.
These documents were then taken to the window next-door to be processed and a stamp added to my passport. They then wanted to witness just those papers at the final inspection gate before entering into Turkey.
If they're not real my only question is how can anyone be confident of getting a valid policy if buying it in the middle of the crossing does not guarantee some level of authenticity.
Thanks,
Jordan

dooby 4 Jan 2018 19:53

Price is defining the validity, so in the above case I would say it's not valid.

If the policy was printed from computer (no stamping and all that middle aged b..shit) then they could not fake the data, but in case of hand writing like in Bosnia, price varies up to 200 % when crossing on different crossings.
You're good as long as shit doesn't hit the fan or being stopped by police that is really determined to do their job.

Reason above is why we're going to offer separate valid policies for each of the countries in Balkans and Turkey also which are all aligned with their country regulator.

Balkans and Turkey are not South America, but riding anywhere without insurance or with fake one is not considered (in my view) a smart move.

In Turkey in the last 10 years there were more than $ 2,5 bn USD losses generated through green card policy coverage, big chunk of which were scams.

Just one link from 2016

Turkey: Motor 3rd-party liability insurance reforms passed to curb costs and premiums

Cheers
Dooby

kiwiwannafly 8 Oct 2019 18:11

Insurance at Turkey border
 
Any current updates as to costs for motorcycle insurance at the border entering Turkey from Greece?

Similarly Turkey to Iraq and Iraq to Saudi Arabia?

Cheers on the heads up re: fake policies Dooby. Saving $=good, spending time in jail=bad.

kappe 10 May 2022 08:53

08/May/2022 Update

My GF and I are travelling with 2 UK plated motorbikes and our UK insurance is not giving green cards.

Attempt #1 Border crossing from Greece to Turkey at Edirne: They had no idea and requested a green card, no way to buy insurance there, we turned back and headed to the much bigger border of Ipsala.

Attempt #2: Ipsala border, just before the first Turkish passport check head inside the building on the left and you'll find an office with a big UMAT sign, open even on Sunday. 13 euros per motorcycle and you have a 3 months insurance with the international company Groupama.

Much better than expected.

ostrich 14 Jun 2022 14:43

Update from 8 June 2022 - crossing from Bulgaria to Turkey
 
We crossed into Turkey with our 2 UK registered bikes at the Malko Tarnovo crossing on 8 June 2022 - it's the one nearest the Black Sea. All went smoothly. Firstly check out of Bulgaria - took moments (zero queue at 11am on Weds morning). Then ride 200m up the road to the Turkish border post. Everyone was very friendly here. There are 2 windows on your left hand side. Window 1 will stamp your passport into Turkey. Window 2 is 5m further on and is Customs. Customs want to see your passport, V5 (vehicle identification document) and Turkish motor insurance. As our UK green card insurance finished at the perimeter of the EU, we needed to buy Turkish motor insurance. If you tell the people at the Customs window that you need Turkish insurance, they will point you to a small kiosk on the other (northbound) side of the road. It's marked "Sigorta" and/or "Green card". The price was €50 per bike, giving us 90 days in Turkey. I got the impression that a shorter period would cost the same. Once you take your insurance back to Window 2, you're good to go. There is one further barrier, 500m further on. This is a double check that your passport and vehicle documents have been processed. The guard wanted to see passport and V5 before lifting the barrier. Next stop Istanbul!


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