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From Kyghistan via PamirHW Iran back to Switzerland
Hello everybody
I'm looking for current advices for our trip in July and August 2017. Route: We start on July 1st in Bishkek then Kyrghistan, Tadjikistan with Pamir Highway, Usbekistan, Turkmenistan, Iran, Aserbeidjan, Georgia, Turkey, Greece and back home to Switzerland. Allready organised or in progress is transport of Bikes incl. baggage from CH to KS, all necessary visas and insurances and flight tickets. Now our question: 1.) time table - we planned to be at the Turkmenistan border by end July start August. Is one month to get there sufficient? This due to the silly Turkmenistan transfer visa regulations of max 5 days which obliges us to mention a speciffic date of entry in the visa application form of Turkmenistan. 2.) on all visa application forms you got to mention an address of a hotel or guesthouse you are going to stay while being in the country. As overlanders we never know in advance where we gonna stay. So how do you manage this situation? 3.) money - we learned that enoug cash money is recommended. How much do you calculate per day when using homestay facilities and restaurants etc.? Cash should be in US$ right? Prefferabely pieces of 1$ and 5$ correct? 4.) Helmet in aircraft cabin - we fly with Turkish Airlines from Zurich via Istambul to Bishkek. While our bikes are on the road to KS we use ohters for holidays. So we need our helmets. Can we carry them as cabin luggage on board, since we will be travelling in bike clothes allready? Any other advise is highly appreciated. Thank you. Silvio |
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I'll probabli see on the road,. I am starting in Slovenia on 09.06.2017 to Ukraina, Russia, Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kirgizia and over Kazakhstan back home. So I figer I ll see you in Pamir. Saso Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Hey sasco
So you might be dealing with the same issues as we will have to.
I'm looking forward to see you un the road somewhere out there and in the meanwile for some substantial answers to my questions in the thread. Cheers Silvio |
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Bishkek to Dushambe via Osh and the Pamir can be done in 10 days no problem. Dushambe to the Turkmenistan border 5 or 6 days depending on what you want to do. I transited Turkmenistan in 3 days via Darvaza gas creator and it took me 6 days to cross Iran. I wrote "no plans as yet" on my Turkmen application form re accomodation and no problem - except when I arrived at the border the immigration young pup grilled me about where is my hotel reservation as I had none but he got fed up eventually. Re costs you can survive in central asia for $20 a day no problem including fuel food and accomodation if you stay in hostels. I had a tent too and used it several times when out in the back of nowhere. You can get cash from ATM no problem in most places but I ususlly had a stash of € and $. Credit cards okay too except in Iran. Hope the Turkmen transit visa works out - it's a bit of a lotto right now. |
Thank you very much Declan for your helpful information. You indeed answerd mostly all of my questions!
Last one: Have you any experience concerning motorboke helmets as handlugage in aircrafts? Thank you! |
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Hey shu
Thank you very much for all those info. Now everything seems to be clear for us. Once again thank you a lot. Silvio |
There's no reason why you can't take a helmet in cabin luggage, though security can be funny especially in countries where motorcycling is less common. Just make sure it's inside a bag or rucksack, preferably in its own helmet bag.
For Turkmenistan the visa situation seems to be very hit and miss. To get a tourist visa you need to be part of an organised tour with a guide, which is expensive. Otherwise you must get a transit visa and the authorities turn down nearly half of those for no reason with no appeal possible. If you do get one you have a very narrow window and you do need to keep to the dates, perhaps not as easy as it sounds if you are driving there. The other option is a visa on the road, which you can get from some embassies in the region, but it takes a full 10 working days which is a long time to be hanging around. Also note it is a TRANSIT visa so you must exit to a different country from the one you entered. In the end Turkmenistan has little to offer but one big hole in the ground and with all the admin that's the main reason not many people bother with it. If you're doing the silk road cities of Uzbekistan and the Pamir Highway you won't regret the experience. If you are determined to go to TM though, speak to Travel Notoria who are local and very helpful. |
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Another thing to note is that whilst the "letter of permission" stated 5 days, as I had indicated on my application form, the young pup of an immigration boy decided 3 days would be enough. He presented me with an official document that had a rudimentary map of Turkmenistan on it and he marked the route that I must follow and dictated the places that I would stay each night - which ironically included Darvaza. But I played his game and told him he was a great boy and soon after I found myself riding towards Ashgabat! I was stopped by the police during the transit, which I actually did in 2 days and they checked my document to ensure I was on the intended route. Otherwise I found Turkmenistan to be an interesting but weird place with nice people. |
A warm thank you to both of you Des Senior ans Declan.
We intend to realy just drive throug Turkmenistan. After having experienced the PHW we will have seen enough "holes in the ground" I assume, so we need an other not even a burning one;-)) Thank you mates for all your valuable inputs! Cheers Silvio bier |
Hello Silvio,
Definietly take dollars. Clean notes, no scratches, stampps etc. Issued after 2000. For 50 and 100 USD you will get better rate. Small amounts like 1, 2, 5 will be difficult to exchange. Helmet was ok in the cabin when I flew to Bishek. |
Good morning Sambor
Thank you for getting back to me with your infos regarding cash money. I certainly agree with you on 50 and 100$ bills. By reading the various threads I've learned that small bills can be very helpful and used quite easely werever you're short of local cash. Some people say it's even easier to pay in $ than in local currency because more appreciated by the locals. Ohters say you can get cash on ATM's allmost everywere. However, I will follow the latest advises received on my own thread here, like yours. They sound logical to me. As far as the helmet issue concerns - thank you guys! I will take it into the camin - this certainly eases up my life very much! Thank you and enjoy the day!:mchappy: Silvio |
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