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Bikes motorhomes and cars to be banned from entering thailand
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I read it in the Bangkok Post the other day, you can apply to come in... also come in from Laos etc. But as with anything else over here...everything is possible This Is Thailand, time will tell. There are still people crossing. The same thread has been on Advrider and riders are still entering ok in the last few weeks.
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This basically discriminates against Chinese camper vans .. I don't think its too much for overland vehicles to worry about.
I got the impression from other articles ( i don't know where, maybe TVF ) that its was probably targeting Cambodian (scooters) ( due to the temperamental attitude of border staff with relation to Thai vehicles entering ) - I guess it could apply to Chinese bikers too. I love the way its also reported but its OK .. "However these regulations will not apply to vehicles from Laos, Malaysia and Singapore as Thailand has pacts with these countries on international car travel." I guess its just because Thai vehicles generally can't enter China, Myanmar and Vietnam and the attitude of those in power "We can't, so, YOU can't either" Reports had been of a lot Chinese vehicles had been sneaking across during last years Chinese new year period. The system isn't set up for them to purchase compulsory insurance ( firstly they would need either an English or Thai translation of their log book ), China doesnt recognise or issue IDP's ( right ? ) they aren't in the ASEAN licence agreement - So Chinese drivers would unlicensed and there are always complaints about their driving behaviour and also cleanliness. Would be quite easy to fix - Customs issues temporary import tickets, the police accept Chinese licences, companies sell them compulsory insurance and the creation of IMHO something desperately lacking in Thailand .. camp sites !! Thailand benefits from increased tourism that they have never had before, but instead, its easier to ban something. |
Other countries opens up such as Myanmar and possibly Vietnam but Thailand moves in the other direction. But what can one expect with a military junta in charge for an unlimited time.... To call it a banana republic would be an offense to the banana.
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Thailand
Hi All
Im presently touring Thailand now and I crossed Via the Malaysian boarder 8 days ago and had no problems at all. In fact the Thai Immigrations & Customs officers were very helpful... |
The story I read referred to a future possible crackdown rather than one in force right now.
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I crossed from Cambodia (forget the name, straight north from Siam Reap) into Thailand, yesterday on a GB plated XT660Z. That said the customs guys wanted to use my CDP but didn't know how to fill it out - so I'm not sure to what extent they've got their finger on the pulse!
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I don't know TBH but I was happy to use mine on this occasion.
If you don't have or wish to use one, then stand your ground! Ed |
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On the 25th February, a week after the Chinese new year, The Nation, reported the government would consider introducing legislation. On 2nd March, China's ambassador was reported to endorse the regulations. However, the legislation will be enforced for about 3 weeks and then promptly forgotten about the week after. Quote:
There is more info here .. ETS: I suggested in a previous post the Chinese were sneaking over - it appears not to be the case - the Chinese drivers pay Bt1,300 for the visa, Bt400 for the insurance, Bt200 for a border pass for the car and Bt20 in document processing fees. Visitors are also required to watch a 15-minute-long video clip on traffic laws in Thailand. .. 4,757 of them during February. Thats a lot future visa fee's to turn away. This made me chuckle .. "The Royal Thai Police will prosecute any commuters ( Chinese tourists ) who violate any of the 10 following rules. They include driving on the sidewalk, driving without a license, not stopping at a crosswalk for pedestrians, not wearing a seat belt, driving over the speed limit, driving under the influence, not wearing a helmet, creating a noise disturbance, parking illegally, and blocking the road." |
I live in Thailand (most of the time)
Hi Everybody,
On the subject: My English wife and I in 2014 traveled by overlander vehicle from the UK to Thailand (Plodd - A Trip of a Lifetime) and have been taking our vehicle in and out of Thailand every 6 months since. I have only ever found the Thai customs officers helpful, sometimes a little slow but always helpful, we are due to go back out soon as we can only keep our vehicle in Thailand for a maximum of 6 months on the temporary import papers, I am pretty sure that there will not be a problem when we arrive at the border. I feel that like snakeboy says overlanders that carry a carnet are the problem, because they are quite prepared to offer there carnet almost without being asked for it, why would you expect the Thai authorities after being offered the carnet that they would want to go through the task of filling in all the paper work for temporary import when he or she can just stamp the carnet and wave good by to the traveler. We must start thinking about the travellers that are following us at these borders. I will keep you informed,after we have exited Thailand and re entered hopefully early June, also if anybody needs any info about any of the border crossing in or out of Thailand just ask and I will try to help. Incidentally we have a brand-new overlanders camp/parking facility completed in 2016 at our home in southeast Thailand so if anybody it down our way looking for a safe place to stay check out our web site. www.overlandersthailand.com |
The (relatively) happy days seems to be gone. Foreign motorbikes are to be banned totally from entering Thailand. It is mentioned guides, fees, permits and only border provinces though. 27th of June it is....
A very sad day for overlanders indeed. Travelling Europe to Australia or opposit direction is becoming much more difficult when this new laws and regulations starts working. You will need to ship your bikes over Thailand as there is no other option. Foreign registered motorcycles likely to be banned from entering Thailand soon |
I thought it was only if you are coming from countries that don't have the agreement with Thailand....unless I read it wrong
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No problems crossing Laos/Thai border
Hi everybody,
Very glad to say that we had no problems crossing and the paperwork was exactly the same as all the other times we have crossed into Thailand. Dave Plodd - A Trip of a Lifetime Overlanders - Stellplatz stop over and tour Pattaya, Thailand |
The new rules are due to be put into action in june this year. So what happens after that month will show us what this means.
I am sceptical - very sceptical..... |
New rules
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I have read about the overlanders and that law was past to start in March this year, but I have hear nothing about bikes, where have you got the info from on bike ? Dave www.plodd.net www.overlandersthailand.com |
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Foreign registered motorcycles likely to be banned from entering Thailand soon |
The article in the Bangkok Post give you the run down
Driving in Thailand: Foreign tourists face strict controls | Bangkok Post: learning Wayne |
Crossing in to Thailand in June
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Is there anybody that as crossed in to Thailand from Laos in the last couple of weeks Dave. www.plodd.net www.overlandersthailand.com Overlanders - Stellplatz stop over Pattaya, |
Solid info and updates = http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...9815#post59815
RideAsia forum as they are keeping track on developments about the in and outbound motor vehicles restrictions in Thailand = http://www.rideasia.net |
Yes, on overland sphere Facebook too. One rule is you have to enter and leave by the same border post, no exceptions. Scratch Thailand off your list if you want to get into or out of China
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We will have to wait and see how the new rules will be practised - they will come into force the 27th this month - but it doesnt look good at all...:(
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Pretty solid info and good updates via RA forum http://www.rideasia.net based out of Chiang Mai......
http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...9815#post59815 http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-f...hiang-mai.html Department of Land Transport’s Notification on Temporary Use of Foreign-registered Vehicle entering the Kingdom of Thailand http://tta.customs.go.th/Announce/Summary.pdf Condition for Temporary Use of Foreign-registered Road Vehicle within the Kingdom of Thailand http://tta.customs.go.th/Announce/Condition.pdf Reads like entry / exit still possible, just more red tape, hassle and some advanced notice required... 'nuff said... |
Here we go again. China into Thailand
Well,
It all seems to have gone quiet on the subject of vehicle being allowed to enter Thailand, however, the Bangkok Post has just published on the 20th June an article on a new road from China that the Thai authorities are paying for, the article says it is being built to promote tourism from China.(Bangkok Post) (Google New road to link China & Thailand via Nan & Luang Prabang). It does make me wonder why the Thai's would pay for a new road then say they are going to ban overland vehicles from entering Thailand, I don't belive the Thai's will stop overlanders visiting Thailand. Has anybody attempted to enter Thailand more recently than our last successful entry at the beginning of June this year. Dave Plodd - A Trip of a Lifetime Overlanders - Stellplatz stop over and tour Pattaya, Thailand |
Encouraging Chinese tourists is OK because they need to return the same way anyway. Not so overlanders who need to get between shipping ports in Malasia and Singapore and China or Burma. Vietnam is not overlander-friendly so that isn't an option
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The guys at Rideasia.net seems to be the best updated in this case.
Ext. Customs Temp. Import of Foreign Reg. Bike in Chiang Mai One thing is sure and that is that this new rules came into enforcement earlier this week - monday the 27th june. Although it still remain to see how the new rules are interpreted and enforced it seems like they will be similar to the rules in China and Myanmar - you will need to apply for a permit 30 days in advance through a travel agency, you can only travel within the borderprovince you are entering Thailand in or stick to an itinerary - and you will need to have people from the Travel Agency with you at all time. Vehicle can max stay 30 days pr year but possible to extend for another 30 days. This means free travel in and througout Thailand on a foreign plated vehicle are not allowed anymore. Another country making it difficult for overland travel. Its just sad and depressing.... Four foreign plated motorbikes are reported stuck in the border between Cambodia and Thailand. |
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