Laos to Mongolia (April/May 2017
 

Hi Everybody,
Well we decided to sell Plodd (Merc 814D) then we decided not to sell, then we decided to drive her from Thailand to Europe, that is now our plan, so if anybody wants to share a guide through China at the end of May 2017 or very early June going from Laos to Mongolia, not taking in so many sights please let me know. Our web site is plodd.net or overlandersthailand.com where you can see what we have been up to in Plodd since driving to Thailand in 2014 from the UK. Dave

Cost for crossing China
 

Hi,
I have just got the cost for crossing China from Laos to Mongolia at the end of May or early June, it is £2300 per car working on the principle that it would be 2 cars so is there anybody thinking of joining us.

Cost for crossing China
 

Hi,

We are 3 motorcycles willing to cross China to Mongolia/Kazakstan around end of May.
Which border would you like to exit China?

Erenhot is the best exit border to cross over to Mongolia and will give you some of the best places to see along the way through China.

Thank you! I would need to extend my trip by whole Mongolia, @daveandles if you are still looking for somebody to join your trip through China?

Sorry we can not take motorbikes
 

Hi,

I am so sorry but we can not travel with bikes as we will be using the Autobahn/Motorway/Highway and motorbikes can not ride on the Chinesse highways but we are still looking for vehicles to join us.

If you would be keen to avoid highways, we can sort things out by adjusting the route. I saw agencies offering motorcycle transits with the same entry and exit. However It might be longer.

Not every province ban motorbike on the Toll roads and the ones that do, DONT mean you can't still ride them.?

Crossing from Laos to Mongolia via China
 

Hi Dariusz,
So sorry that we can not travel with you bikers, the reason is we need to cross China as quickly as possible and we must take our guides advice about the motorways.

daveandles , if you would not find anybody we can organize the trip together by ommiting expresways, this would extend your stay in China 2-3 days, but with 3 vehicles costs will be much lower.

Hello,

We are only 1 motorcycle, but can consider joining your route, depending on the cost.

Hi
We are also 1 bike looking to do the same trip!

Current quote we have for 3 bikes is 3000USD per bike (pillion free) for 14days
They are happy to drop some bikes at Mongolia a few days earlier and drop others at Kazakstan border on 14th day

This includes guide an all required paper work as far as they say.

With Dariusz and you guys and us that is 3 bikes!

the quote is from Ride China

Please reply asap if you are keen to lock in as time is running for them to sort paper work.

Cheers
Lucas

Hi I could be interested but it seems too tight in 14 days from Laos to Mongolia.(?) is around 4000kms, not all fast with some rain.
we were in China up to Tibet border from Thailand last year (2016)

the price $3000 x bike sounds expensive!I do have have contacts of an agent that could do it cheaper .
Keep in mind the group should stick together with guide.there is check points between provinces ,we were stopped several times.

lucas :it takes 3/4 weeks for the agent to get documents ready.not in a hurry.
but lets move on a new thread for the bike trip .(I just created a new 1 .look for it)
where are u staying in thailand?
sergio

Just an update on my movements I leave CR Thailand on the 24th March 2017 and fly to Kunming to pick up my Chinese plated bike with the plans to ride as much as I can over Yunnan and Sichuan provinces heading basically over towards Beijing which should be on the same route to Erenhot.
Love to join up with a few of you guys along the way, with over 8 years riding all over china maybe I can be of some assistance.
PM me with details

Sergio, are you the same guy from BKK?

All booked Laos to Mongolia via China
 

Hi we are all booked and ready to go start date from Laos/China border is 14th June, 16 days to Mongolia, so if there is anybody wanting to join us let us know asap.
sorry we can not travel with bikes as we will be using the motorways as much as possible

Laos, China to Mongolia June 13th 2017
 

We are all packed with Chineses visa's, guide booked and ready to start our journey, we leave Laos entering China on the 13th June 2017 so if there is anybody looking to join us please let me know as soon as possible, our trip is 16 days to Mongolia using motorways as much as possible.

last year We took (a group of 10 motorcycles+ guide/agent 4x4) several times the freeway in China.at some point after Kunming we even passed amidst a police block! and just waved through :thumbup1::clap: and parked after the police .not a problem.we did definetly look like 'tourists'...
apparently the ban is for passengers and motos must be able to go 70kmh and up should be fine..
I could be interested but ride a Africa twin 1000cc.what does your agent say about bikes?
Sergio bier

Sorry No Go
 

Hi Foristwiz,

I have asked the question and the guide still says that bikes can not use the motorways so we can not go together sorry.

We are now a 2 vehicle convoy setting off from Laos/China border on the 13th June 2017

Hi Dave
I think it not advisable to mix cars and bikes if you wish to drive on the Toll rides in China.
To say that Motorbikes are BANNED on ALL toll roads in China is incorrect.
Yunnan is so so with bikes on Toll roads due mainly to the fact that so many tours come up from Thailand?
Sichuan province can be problematic at times, were most ring roads around Beijing is ok but you have to pay.
Some other provinces are very strict and just a few weeks ago I was chased by the police on a toll road.

Here is a recent picture of me riding on the Toll roads in China

http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/...pskfqmkacu.jpg



Sorry, Sergio not true mate.

Video
 

Here is a video was shown on Chinese TV last year.
Just a quick translation on what is said.

1. The reporter talks about seeing a Motorbike paying and entering a Toll road.
2. She then asked people about are motorbikes allowed on the Toll roads?
All say NO.
3. A lady who works at the Tollbooth says ok for motorbikes.
4. No sign to show Motorbikes are not allowed
5. The policeman tells the reporter, YES motorbikes are allowed but must stay in the right-hand land can't go slower than 50km and no faster than 70km and must wear a crash helmet.
6. The big bike riders say all ok but you have to pay same as a small car.

The Toll road report was for Hubei province and the reporter closes by saying if this is legal in Hubei province why not in other Provinces ??

link to video... http://vid1360.photobucket.com/album...psebtcg2he.mp4

So now you all have it.

And I hope it clears this matter up once and for all


http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/...psebtcg2he.mp4

Back in Europe from Thailand
 

Well we made it back to Europe, with only a couple of problems, so good luck to anybody following.

Dave
Plodd - A Trip of a Lifetime
www.overlandersthailand