@Toby
I guess that should be gmail..
could you please send me a brochure page (400-600 cc.)or link to your website/facebook page....

all the best.

Mehmet,

Sent to you in pm. Yes, that is gmail.com. :innocent:

Toby

"Cheating the system" - what system?
 

Although I know now that I should have had a "permiso", at the time I didn't (since found out on an ex-pats forum), and no-one thought to inform me.
2013 - I borrowed a bike and went to get SOAT from Positiva - all they asked for was my passport and the bike papers (in someone else's name!) and sold me insurance.
2013 (later) - I looked into buying said bike. Went to a large Notario in Trujillo, who looked at the papers and simply told me the vendor had to be there as well (he was back in the USA), so that fell through.
2014 - bought a bike and was told to go to a Notario with the paperwork. Again they did not ask for any "permiso" (still unaware I needed it) and authorised the documentation.
2014 - went again to Positiva with the paperwork I had and they gave me "temporary" SOAT, which they told me was all I needed along with the bill of sale to drive legally in Peru. When I got the tarjeta and plates I went back and got the SOAT changed.
2015 - again went to Positiva and bought SOAT for this year - only bike papers and passport requested.

So I "cheated the system" but since no-one (different clerks at Positiva and Notario) informed me what "the system" was how could I have known what the correct process was? You have to trust people in authority to inform you what you do or don't require, and no-one indicated that I was doing anything wrong. OK, ignorance of the law is no excuse, but my "cheating" was simply trusting people who sell insurance or sign documents.

You don't need the permiso to purchase insurance ever. What you need it for is to SIGN CONTRACTS, ie: purchase a motorcycle, rent an apartment, get married, etc.

Everyone who comes thru Huanuco to buy a motorcycle thru me, I make them get the permiso while coming thru Lima, but in the 7 bikes we have done, they have NEVER asked for it!

So... relax!

On another note every rider is supposed to have an INTER-AMERICAN motorcycle license... but in my last 10 years (and probably 100,000 km) riding throughout SA I have been asked for it TWICE!

Toby

Never heard of this before (possibly because it appears to be aimed at "Americans"), but I always carry a valid IDP (International Driving Permit - need different ones for Brazil and Peru!), which is basically just a translation of the UK driving licence. You are allowed to drive for 6 months in most foreign countries on an UK licence.
Last year I presented both (IDP and UK licence) several times at police checkpoints, but most of the time they were more fascinated by an ageing Gringo riding alone!

It took me 5 minutes to 'know' what the correct process to sign contracts and buy a bike/car/house/etc is 'From the Peruvian government: https://www.migraciones.gob.pe/index...-y-estudiante/'

Google is a wonderful thing brother, give it a try :thumbup1:

I'm relaxed, I'm not the one breaking the rules in a foreign country.

Buena suerte bier

Digging up old history
 

Not sure why you are digging up the past here?
I am relaxed about it too, as I bought my bike in February 2014, based on information I had from the bike shop, a Notaria, and then Positiva (Google is great if you know where to look - I chose to ask locally rather than online - my bad!), and it is totally legal to ride here - the permiso has short validity so IF I had one then it would no longer be valid.
Breaking "rules"? The only one was buying a bike without the permiso - singular - as I have since checked with the police locally and riding before you receive tarjeta and placas is acceptable as long as you have SOAT, and proof of purchase!
Chill out!

I live here in Peru too, and have seen people circulating WITHIN a city before they get their papers and placa (as you can explain to the police that it is just a local tramite matter...), but NEVER out on the open road. You may be encouraging gringos to come to Peru, buy motorcycles and take off on trips without the proper papers....

WOULDN'T recommend that!

That was never my intention - but I used the wait for the placa and tarjeta to familiarise myself with the bike and local traffic conditions (like learning where all the local potholes are! Everywhere!), and get the initial "running in" completed. Felt that it was better to do that than straight out on the open road once they arrived - by then I was confident of the bike's, and my own, ability to cope.