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Originally Posted by Snakeboy (Post 567092)

Ok amigo - thanks for the update on the conditions at Paso de Jama then :rain::mchappy:

he told you something very important - that for crossing from CHL to BOL, you need to give up your TVIP at San Pedro. I have already told you that it is extremely easy to avoid the aduanas in San Pedro by driving on a parallel street. So you then cross into BOL, and get a BOL TVIP and are on your way.

To end this story - Im out of Chile but man what a PITA it was. I waited more than 4 weeks for the Aduana in Punta Arenas to answer my mail. They never pickd up the phone btw and never answered mail. After those weeks I contacted an agent to help me. He started working to get me a new document that allowed me to leave the country. I was at the local Aduana with the agent several times - I understood that this wasnt easy. But then - after 5,5 weeks I suddenly got an email from Aduana Punta Arenas with a permission to leave the country if I fulfilled this and that "ley". After some further investigations fullfilling the "ley" implied me to pay a fine. But there was a lot of confusion about who was in charge of issuing this fine. The local aduana didnt wanna do it and Punta Arenas wouldnt either. And another problem was that since I didnt have a RUT it was even more difficult to issue a fine to me. But after only 4-5 days of negotiating between local and Punta Arenas Aduana I got a fine of 23700 pesos (31 euro) and paid it and that was it. Of course the local agent needed a little money as he had also worked on the case with me.
Bureaucrasy down here is massive! But I have to add that most people I have met face to face have been helpful, polite and smiling, its just the system seems to work very slowly...

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Originally Posted by gunt86 (Post 565605)

I mean Villa O'Higgins --- at the end of the Carraterra Austral.
Here is where the crossing is: -48.209663, -72.320960

The river is swollen in the spring and summer because of snow melt.

There is a customs place in Villa O'Higgins I think - for the cyclists and hikers who take the ferry south to Argentina across the lake. Motos and cars are not allowed on the ferry....but there is this 'escape route' at the coordinates listed above, if you have the stomach for it.

Also... the border crossing in San Pedro de Atacama is very loose.... The Aduanas is in the town of San Pedro, but the crossing into Bolivia is far East of the town on the highway. It is extremely easy to not stop at the Chile Aduanas as there are many other streets to the highway, and cruise right onto Bolivia. Hide the bike in town, walk to Aduanas, get Passport stamped out, walk back to bike, take detour through town, and hit the highway to Bolivia. The only thing to worry about is that you (or someone else) will never be allowed to take the bike back into Chile again.

Which Highway to Bolivia after stamping out?!

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Originally Posted by gunt86 (Post 565605)

Also... the border crossing in San Pedro de Atacama is very loose.... The Aduanas is in the town of San Pedro, but the crossing into Bolivia is far East of the town on the highway. It is extremely easy to not stop at the Chile Aduanas as there are many other streets to the highway, and cruise right onto Bolivia. Hide the bike in town, walk to Aduanas, get Passport stamped out, walk back to bike, take detour through town, and hit the highway to Bolivia. The only thing to worry about is that you (or someone else) will never be allowed to take the bike back into Chile again.

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Originally Posted by JLee (Post 593193)

Which Highway to Bolivia after stamping out?!

You will need a document of the chilean aduana for the Bolivian one. otherwise you have to drive back all way. So you have to go to the chilean Aduana!!!

Also the border opened now close to the top of passo Jama where you turn left to Bolivia.

Get a "promesa", a lot of people were able to leave with that.