Before people start throwing too much mud then:

Yes Geoff adviced me to check out Klein, because I asked him for advice on Paraguay.

Thanks for that, saved me time and trouble.

People can always drop by Paraguay before going home I guess and check out the market. Go there before BA and if you can get rid of the bike then do it, or go to BA and ship home.

I would advice people to decide before the head to BA though, as it is expensive to hang out there trying to make up your mind. That was my main mistake, as I simply hadent thought it through. It is expensive to drive back and forewards so make up your mind and part with the bike as soon as a decent offer presents itself (think you mentioned that before Geoff)

So this here HUBB is about overlanders providing useful information to other overlanders (I use that term since more and more of the folks here are on 4-wheels). Someone comes to the HUBB, they do a search, find threads or messages of relevance and viola! - they get answers.

When we misuse this here HUBB to post stuff that doesn't really pertain to the purpose, or misstate the real situation, then we're not doing anyone a service.

So from the messages, gatogato left Buenos Aires where he had no luck selling his bike, went to Ascuncion, and within a few days, found a way to sell his bike. Peter did the same thing (tried selling in BA - found a buyer in Ascunion within a few days).

So its unfortunate the thread title isn't something like "unload bike fast in Paraguay for a bit less money".

It certainly would be a more useful thread title/message to other motorcyclists a few months from now. Unfortunately, they're going to see "Paraguay is not a good place to sell your bike!" and move on - the helpful information you just posted "sell at Klein Motos" is overlooked. :oops2:

I agree that the threads name is misleading, BUT havent we been hard enough on Geoff for one adventure? I had thought about making a new thread, but instead there will be a Buy and Sell bike info page (once grant makes it) bit like the shipping page.

Hey Chuck
Don’t bark, looks like Gato will still posting without read, understand and thinks before replay….
As Ted says: Chilax!!!!!!
Put the coffee-pot on, I will be there in few minutes
Saludos

Okay, that is fair enough what you said there. I just wish you would have said that the first time instead of being condescending and judgmental.


When I made this thread I was mad that Paraguay did not turn out to be the "dream place" to sell your bike like some 4 year old stories said it was.

In Argentina I was offered $1000 more for my bike than what Klein Motos offered me. I thought I could finish my trip and sell the bike for more in Paraguay however. This was not the case so maybe now you understand why I was disappointed.

I will change the thread title to say "Klein Motos in Paraguay is a good place to sell your bike in SA if you can not ship it home."

To add to the story I dont think that Klein motos will pay a good price for ANY bike.

One of the owners had a friend who needed a KLR and mine was really nicely farkled so they didnt worry too much about the cosmetic damages the bike had (lots of them).

Most private buyers dont care as much about farkels as cosmetics, in my experience.

Klein is a place to TRY, not a safe bet. Depends on what they want at the time being and what you got.

But a private sale should be relatively easy there, since there are lots of rich people.

Hey Peter, what year was your KLR, what farkles did you have, and how many miles?

I was just thinking that your Klein offer of $2700 was pretty close to mine at $3000. The guys at Klein were trying to tell me that there wasn't any demand for F650's in Paraguay and that was why they could not offer me more.

2005, 22k miles

lots of damage to the plastics, but almost all the farkels you can put on it.

corbin seat, new suspension front and rear, renthal bars, handguards, alu bashplate, rack, highway pegs, crashbars, new tires, upgraded brakes, upgraded shifters, off road pegs.

I think they value the bike accordingly to what they need at the time being and I think that the KLR may be more popular since parts are, relatively cheaply, availably and it is known for reliability. If I had taken well care of my KLR a private sale would have been alot easier for me, but it looked like shit.

The beemer you sold is probably something that needs a buyer who wants "just that" and is willing to pay for it.