Paraguay is not a good place to sell your bike!
 

(((Edit: Hey guys, I wanted to update my opinion about selling your bike in Paraguay. There is a shop called Klein Motos (Klein Motos - Official Website ) in Asuncion that specializes in importing salvage bikes from the U.S. and selling them in Paraguay. This is good because they know how to do all of the paperwork to legalize your bike which costs them around $2000 in fees. This shop will make you a decent (no strings attached) offer on your bike depending on what type of bike you have. For my 2001 F650, 40k miles they offered me $3000. They will not give you any money for aftermarket accessories or servicing/maitenance.

To do my trip over again I would have shipped my bike home from Buenos Aires and not have worried about selling it. I think Klein Motos is the best hassle free option for selling your bike if you have to, but there does not seem to be an 'ideal' country for selling your bike in South America.

It would be nice to hear a report about someone who sold their bike in Ecuador. When I was there a motorcyclist friend I made who owned a body shop told me that I could sell my bike for $7000 and that the legalization would cost $500. (If only Ecuador was not in the middle of the trip.) ))) Edit.



Hey guys, I wanted to let everyone know that there is a new president in Paraguay and I think the regulations must have changed for the legalization of big bikes. I read on Horizons that the cost to legalize was around $500 but now that I am in Paraguay the cost from what I can figure out is more like $2000.

It is a small poor country and there only seems to be demand for common main stream bikes like V-Stroms, KLRs, and Hondas but they have to be in excellent condition to fetch any dollars. After talking to a few moto shop owners here it seems like the introduction of Chinese bikes really killed the demand for big bikes here.

I am going to try and sell my F650 here for the next week but I am not too optimistic.

My newspaper ad just ran today on a Saturday here in Asuncion and I received 0 calls. There is no reason to try and sell your bike in this country. grrr

asuncion
 

Hi mate, could you get rid of your bike
Are you still in asuncion
I just arrived, without bike'it got stolen in Montevideo' this is a good place to get rid of your bike. just took 1 night
regards
armin:oops2:

armin:

Bad luck man, I feel for you! Did you leave it out on the street at night?

Salve Peter, left it at the parking yard of my hotel.Seemed safe but wasn't.
maybe quite a few guys work together..there's a bike..come and pick it up, I won't hear anything...
Next time I travel with a rottweiler..
cheers
Armin:stupid:

Hey Armin, that is terrible. I sold my motorcycle a couple of days ago. I wish you luck on the rest of your trip and if you need a contact in Asuncion let me know. He can help you find a new bike easily.

BTW: I have some used aluminum panniers that I could sell you for a good deal but I just dragged them back to Buenos Aires.

Selling in Montevideo
 

Hi all,
I have just arrived in Montevideo after completing a trans-Canada, USA, Central America and South America trip and hope to sell my 1995 BMWf650, (sounds old but still less than 45k under her wheels - only 35k on clock but I went from one side of Canada to the other without a working speedo!!)
I met a dealer from here while in Arrica, Chile, and he offerred me a good price, I'll see him Monday. he only buys enduros though: but while I'm here, negotiating and chilling out before heading for Oz and buying a bike there, anyone know of a cheap apartment in this neck of the woods?

oh and the guy here to see is at: Willi Motors; Off Road Distributor, he's in the yellow pages here, hmm maybe I'll ask him to throw in an apartment as part of the deal:wink3:

Uruguay is even worse I would like to add!

It is illigal to sell a foreign bike here so I have to go to Paraguay now. Went to several big bike dealers in Montevideo and the message was the same...

BTW I don't think you need to get a Paraguayan visa in advance if you are from Europe. Can anyone confirm that only the north americans and ozzies need the visa?

C`mon mate, i thought you were spending hours on line each night now you`re waiting for an escape plan? Most euro countries don`t, true: UK Embassy of Paraguay - List Of Exempt Countries
If i ever want to check the latest on visa requirements per nationality or which borders are open for foreigners etc i check lonelyplanet.com/thorntree since there are a lot more of those poor backpackers jammed in buses than there are filthy wandering bikers.

yeah good point mate, I was in a hurry and didn't think it through.

Paraguay is a GREAT place to sell your bike.

I arrived yesterday at 6 in the evening. Today at 6 I have cash in my hand and a planeticket to Buenos Aires.

I sold it to Klein Motos and it was really easy. Paperwork is smooth as oil here and they were nice people.

I originally bought the bike for 4200$ and I sold it for 2800$. I wish I had known that I would sell it from the start, because then I would have taken better care of it and spendt less money on it (-:

Maybe not the best deal, but so very easy.

I could maybe have gotten 3500 for it, if I waited for a private sale, but then more time and more expenses and is really cold here.

Maybe Paraguay is not a rich country, but there are lots of rich people in Asuncion! Soya farmers and businessmen that use Paraguay due to its strategic location and bendable rules...

When I entered from argentina they wouldent even give me a temporary import at the aduana! I asked twice and they simply refused.

Congratulations
 

Good to know Peter - well done.

I guess that can be the first entry in the "where and how to sell a bike" page. I think that's not a bad price, everything considered.

I am happy with the price as well. I just wish I had known where to sell from the start, because then I could have saved lots of $ waiting in BA driving around to no avail.

So yes I will be ready to post when the Buy and Sell page arrives from above (-:

cleanup on isle 15!
 

It would seem that Paraguay is indeed a good place to sell a bike.

Its again another unfortunate choice of words for gatogato.

Someone else will have to clean up the mess the lad left. :nono:

Who do you think recommended Klein Motos to Peter? What makes you think he got a good deal on his bike? Do you know what type of bike he was riding? If he lived in the U.S. it would have been cheaper and easier to ship the bike home possibly.

Instead of going around taking cheap shots at people who ride more than their driveway maybe you should actually get out and do a real adventure yourself.

BTW: My opinion on selling your bike in Paraguay is only do it if you live outside North America or have a bike $3000 or less. The dispatchio is in the neighborhood of $2000. The best option for NA people is to ship the bike back from Buenos Aires and use Dakar Motors to help you out. This method will save you a lot of time and headaches.

Before people start throwing too much mud then:

Yes Geoff adviced me to check out Klein, because I asked him for advice on Paraguay.

Thanks for that, saved me time and trouble.

People can always drop by Paraguay before going home I guess and check out the market. Go there before BA and if you can get rid of the bike then do it, or go to BA and ship home.

I would advice people to decide before the head to BA though, as it is expensive to hang out there trying to make up your mind. That was my main mistake, as I simply hadent thought it through. It is expensive to drive back and forewards so make up your mind and part with the bike as soon as a decent offer presents itself (think you mentioned that before Geoff)

So this here HUBB is about overlanders providing useful information to other overlanders (I use that term since more and more of the folks here are on 4-wheels). Someone comes to the HUBB, they do a search, find threads or messages of relevance and viola! - they get answers.

When we misuse this here HUBB to post stuff that doesn't really pertain to the purpose, or misstate the real situation, then we're not doing anyone a service.

So from the messages, gatogato left Buenos Aires where he had no luck selling his bike, went to Ascuncion, and within a few days, found a way to sell his bike. Peter did the same thing (tried selling in BA - found a buyer in Ascunion within a few days).

So its unfortunate the thread title isn't something like "unload bike fast in Paraguay for a bit less money".

It certainly would be a more useful thread title/message to other motorcyclists a few months from now. Unfortunately, they're going to see "Paraguay is not a good place to sell your bike!" and move on - the helpful information you just posted "sell at Klein Motos" is overlooked. :oops2:

I agree that the threads name is misleading, BUT havent we been hard enough on Geoff for one adventure? I had thought about making a new thread, but instead there will be a Buy and Sell bike info page (once grant makes it) bit like the shipping page.

Hey Chuck
Don’t bark, looks like Gato will still posting without read, understand and thinks before replay….
As Ted says: Chilax!!!!!!
Put the coffee-pot on, I will be there in few minutes
Saludos

Okay, that is fair enough what you said there. I just wish you would have said that the first time instead of being condescending and judgmental.


When I made this thread I was mad that Paraguay did not turn out to be the "dream place" to sell your bike like some 4 year old stories said it was.

In Argentina I was offered $1000 more for my bike than what Klein Motos offered me. I thought I could finish my trip and sell the bike for more in Paraguay however. This was not the case so maybe now you understand why I was disappointed.

I will change the thread title to say "Klein Motos in Paraguay is a good place to sell your bike in SA if you can not ship it home."

To add to the story I dont think that Klein motos will pay a good price for ANY bike.

One of the owners had a friend who needed a KLR and mine was really nicely farkled so they didnt worry too much about the cosmetic damages the bike had (lots of them).

Most private buyers dont care as much about farkels as cosmetics, in my experience.

Klein is a place to TRY, not a safe bet. Depends on what they want at the time being and what you got.

But a private sale should be relatively easy there, since there are lots of rich people.

Hey Peter, what year was your KLR, what farkles did you have, and how many miles?

I was just thinking that your Klein offer of $2700 was pretty close to mine at $3000. The guys at Klein were trying to tell me that there wasn't any demand for F650's in Paraguay and that was why they could not offer me more.

2005, 22k miles

lots of damage to the plastics, but almost all the farkels you can put on it.

corbin seat, new suspension front and rear, renthal bars, handguards, alu bashplate, rack, highway pegs, crashbars, new tires, upgraded brakes, upgraded shifters, off road pegs.

I think they value the bike accordingly to what they need at the time being and I think that the KLR may be more popular since parts are, relatively cheaply, availably and it is known for reliability. If I had taken well care of my KLR a private sale would have been alot easier for me, but it looked like shit.

The beemer you sold is probably something that needs a buyer who wants "just that" and is willing to pay for it.