selling foreign motorbike in Columbia or Ecuador
 

Does anyone have any experience of selling a motorbike in either Columbia or Ecuador?
I bought the bike in Bolivia and want to sell it when I finish my trip around May time in Columbia or possibly Ecuador. the bike is registered in Bolivia and I have no idea how complicated it will be to sell it or if i will have to pay alot of tax on it.
If anyone has any real experience of this I would be really greatful to hear about it.
Thanks

Put and add up in the travel bike for sale forum.
Punta Arenas is free port, you can legally sell your bike quite a few travelers have done that.

The rest of Chile and Argentina you'd have to find someone who wanted the bike for parts and scrap it. Probably the way to get the most for it.

Paraguay is another spot where you can sell the bike. There are a number of used dealers there who buy/sell bikes. I've heard they don't give ya much as there is some import duty involved. I'm trying to find details myself to get rid of by bike too.

Piece of cake in Colombia if you can sell to another traveller, I've done it a couple of times now.
Difficult to sell local.

PM me if you want details. What bike?

Just for emphasis. You don't get to sell a foreign bike anywhere that I know of in SA except for the two free trade zones in Chile Irequeqe and Punta Arenas. As to whether you want to make an illegal sale and possibly get clobbered by customs on the flight out, figure it out. Dave

thanks for your reply ffathead. i would definatly like more details. (i cant pm you as im new to this site and it wont let me pm yet!)
my bike is a honda XR650L

No worries, have PM'd you my email, assuming they will let you read them of course...

Process is quite simple here, as long as the bike stays on it's temporary import document, i.e. is being sold to a foreigner, or will leave the country again, you just need to write up a letter confirming the sale, and then get it notarized. Process takes a couple of hours, and is perfectly legal.
It's difficult to sell to a local simply because the import taxes are prohibitively high.

thanks I will try again to PM you (should have enough posts on this site now to be allowed :-)
do you know how much the tax is likely to be if you sell to a local? and how easy is it to find a foreigner to sell to?
Matias

Hi Matias,

I am a colombian motorcycle enthusiast and traveler. I am 100% positive that you cannot sell your bike here in Colombia if the buyer intends to ride it "street legal." The reason is because the transportation authorities only issue license plates to new vehicles.

The only chances you have, have already been mentioned before:

1. Sell to another traveler who will take it out of the country in the same legal conditions as when you entered into Colombia.

2. Sell it to somebody local who will part it out, for example to restore a broken/thrashed bike.

Hope this info helps you in some way.

If you need any help, I live in Bogotá and would be glad to assist you in any way.

Ride safe,

JAIME H GUERRERO R

hi Jaime
thanks for your message very helpful.
do you know how I might find another traver to buy my bike?
sounds like this could be the way.
Matias

Hi Matias,

As someone already posted, in the lower part of the HUBB main page, there are these topics where you may find somebody interested:

TRAVEL Bikes for Sale / Wanted and Bike Swap or Rent


If I can assist you in any other way, please contact me.

Ride safe,

JAIME

Selling a Chilean registered bike in Colombia
 

Hey Guys,

Very helpful thread, thanks very much. Im just researching for my trip now.

1 question for someone with experience. I want to buy a motorbike in Chile and ride it to Colombia (and hopefully find a traveller to buy it from me).

How would that transaction take place, i.e. what papers etc would the buyer need and how would they/we contact chile about the transfer of ownership etc.

Cheers fellas,

Herro

@JHGR

Thanks for the post. Just about to sell my bike in Columbia in June. Can't PM you either. Any help with the details would be amazing. What papers do I need, etc? Thanks again!

I have also recently bought a bike down here in south america with plans to finish in Colombia. Any info from any and all people would be great.

My basic plan doesn't have me leaving until northern hemisphere fall, so those who bought and are trying to sell, if you wouldn't mind putting up a little story on how it all goes it would be greatly appreciated!!

Hi everyone
 

We are lookig to buy a bike in Colombia. We will be there from mid July to Mid August. If any of you guys will be there around that time and have a bike which is good for 2 people ridding please let me know.

Happy Travel

Moaref

Selling two 250 cc motorcycles in Bogota
 

We might have just what you need.
Two 3 months old (6500 km) 250cc motorcycles, all the gear an tools you'll need for your trip, and all the help you need to get your trip going.
Would be very cheap, especially if you're heading down to chili, here you might be able to sell it for the same price. Way cheaper than renting.
Relevant until August 8th 2013.
Email me at noam.mann@gmail.com

selling yamaha super ténéré xtz 750cc in Cali, Colombia
 

Good Morning Moaref, i have a nice& good working yamaha 750cc, fully equipped wit panniers, now for sale in Cali,Colombia.I left the bike at a friend's place when finishing my colombian trip at the end of last year. The bike has been legally imported from Belgium and is comfortable to travel with a passenger on the back. If you can message me your email address if can send you pictures and all the info you want. Enjoy Colombia and SA! best regards,Luc

ffathead
I PM'd you few questions about selling a bike here in Colombia. Just don't know if the PM's really work or not.
I'm trying to sell my DR here and would like some more details how it is done. Is the letter of sales enough to travel to other countries from colombia? And what about changing the name on TIP?
cheers

When i entered Equador nobody asked for the bike or wanted to see any documents so there it would be very easy to sell. In Columbia they ever registered the frame number directly from the bike:

Ａｂｅｎｔｅ&# xff55;ｅｒ Weltreise per Motorrad - Ecuador & Columbien

I just entered into Ecuador, and have a foreign buyer for my bike.

I was really tempted to not get it checked in at aduana, and try to ride it to its sales destination. I'm glad I didn't. I was stopped on the roads twice and asked to provide full documentation on the bike. They took photos of my plate and VIN as well.

I am hoping to get the title transfer and bill of sale notarized, so that I can cancel the TVIP properly. :innocent:

Looking to buy a moto in Colombia
 

I might be a little late for most of the people wanting to sell bikes in Colombia, however, I am interested in adventure ready bikes for sale. I live in Cartagena, but right now I am in Barranquilla checking out some bikes; no luck here so far.

Ffathead and JAIME H GUERRERO R (JHGR) I would like to personally ask you guys for some help. You both seem like great contacts in Colombia and willing to help a fellow motorcycle enthusiast get on two wheels. If you guys know anyone selling a bike anywhere in Colombia can you please contact me. I'm a new member to the Hubb so I can't PM you, but please contact me. Here is my post that I put up in the travel bike sale/wanted forum here on the hubb...

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ke-south-75425

Thanks everyone and happy trails.

-Stephen

Selling a motorbike in Colombia
 

Hi ffathead,
I'm new to Horizon and can't PM. Im trying to answer the same question 'how to sell a foriegn registered bike in Colombia to a traveller. The DIAN have told me it can't be done because my name is on the temporary import, so I have to be the one who leaves with the bike. I've been in and out on it before, so I've had a brain wave. What if I could sell it in no man's land at the frontera, if I had a second registeration document in the buyers name. I could stamp out of Colombia, do the deal with the buyer and he could enter Ecuador with new papers. This plan would work best with a Brit. I'm English and the bike's a British reg BMW F800GS 2010 23,000 miles. If anyone's interested.
ffathead whats your way?

Harliec, that's the way it's most commonly done--usually including some use of image-editing software--although of course no one here would ever use these forums to advise doing anything illegal....right?

Were someone to proceed down this path, they'd certainly want to think it through carefully. The goal is for the buyer to end up owning the bike legally so that they can import and export it down the road, insure it when necessary, and eventually sell it legally themselves to whoever's next in line. Exact procedures for making that happen depend in part on the bike's current documentation and on procedures for transferring ownership in its country of origin. This varies greatly by the country (and, in the USA, the specific state) where the bike is registered. To some degree it also varies by the nationality and current location of the buyer.

It should be obvious that a certain degree of trust between buyer and seller is going to be necessary. I'll add that it should be equally obvious that risk tolerance varies greatly from one person to the next, and that this ingredient will be key in many transfers.

Of course there are always alternatives. If you're traveling in South America, you've probably had local people approach you asking to buy the bike on the spot. Sometimes these offers are genuine (and of course, sometimes they're definitely not!), although always fraught with all sorts of uncertainties. And it's my understanding (based on hearsay, not direct experience) that there are a few areas in Chile, perhaps Panama, and possibly elsewhere where bikes can legally be sold. Some details can be found by searching this site and reading with a sharp, critical eye.

Hope that's helpful.

Mark

British-reg vehicles are quite easy to swap registrations regardless of the new owner's nationality PROVIDED the current owner is happy to share his address with the new owner. Current owner does need to return the registered keeper document and notify the registry of the new owner so new registered keeper papers can be issued. Also the new owner has to SORN the vehicle as well and that can also be done via the internet. The license plates remain the same so swapping in no mans land is a lot easier once only one sheet of paper is swapped.

Still complicated, but a lot easier than for instance, trying to get legal ownership of an EU or Swiss vehicle, or one from British Columbia.
and I'd say this goal is achieved less than 10% of the time.

Selling a motorbike in Colombia
 

Hi everyone! I'm English living in Colombia and am trying to find out if there is anyway that I could sell my English registered F800GS. The short answer is no, but I had a thought 'maybe it could be sold in no man’s land at Rumichaca between Colombia and Ecuador, if we had a registration document in the buyers name. I would have left Colombia with the old registration document and the new owner could enter Ecuador with the new one and continue travelling south. A devilishly clever plane. Could it work?

Thanks markharf. All I need now is a potential buyer. If anyone hears of anybody looking to start their trip in Colombia between now and February 2016 please let them know I'm selling.
This bike is the same as mine with the same mileage http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/32189...508&rmvSB=true

hi ffathead, why not to share the info with everyone here?that is what this forum is for .cheers bier

getting insurance on bike on Columbia
 

Hi,
I found a bike for sale in Columbia that was registered in Ontario, Canada which I have now purchased. I was able to get registration sent to Canada and transferred into my name and have arrived in Medellin with Canadian plates and registration. I tried to get SOAT for the bike but I wasn't able to do so as the bike is not registered in Columbia (I didn't get a temporary permit from the previous owner).
Not sure what I can do now, is it possible to get other insurance other than SOAT?

Appreciate the advise, Peter

Mate, hate to break it to you but if you don't have the temporary import permit there's no point in getting insurance. The bikes not legally in the country without it. I'd get that permit asap, and hope it's not expired. Then you'll need to either do a border run to change the plates or get insurance on the original plates until you've crossed borders (you know that you need to change the plates between borders...)

I'd say don't ride it around until you've got the permit and the SOAT and definitley don't stick the new plates on.

Don’t ride the bike, per the above. If all else fails, try shipping it elsewhere—at least as far as a border.

I’m thinking you really want to find out whether it entered the country legally in the first place. If not, you could ship it to wherever the Stahlratte docks these days and import it with the next load of bikes they deliver. If the bike is listed as already temporarily imported but never exported, this might get the bike confiscated (or worse).

If there’s an open TIP, you want to get your hands on it, whatever that takes. And if there’s any chance the bike was stolen—i.e., not registered to the person you bought it from—you might as well learn that without putting yourself at risk. Think things through before acting.

First time I rode in Colombia I didn’t buy insurance. At roadblocks I’d show my policy from North America, which hadn’t expired yet. That seemed to work just fine, although it’s not recommended. Second time, I was required to purchase at the border, which was also fine. YMMV.

Last idea is to figure out what a local would do in this situation. There are usually workarounds to almost any situation in Colombia, but you need to find someone who knows the system and how to get things done. I’d ask Mike at Motolombia, but there are others who post here or on ADVrider.com.

Oh, and in the future try to be a bit less credulous. A person trying to sell you something is not always on your side.

Hope that’s helpful.

Without a TIP, you can ride it out of Colombia to Ecuador without checking the bike out. You arrive at the border, leave gear witht the bike, stand in line to stamp out(passport only) of Colombia then ride to Ecuadorian side and ask of an Ecuadorian TIP as you stamp in.

Altought not legal, I know a few who have done this successfuly.

Be aware that if you do get pulled over without a TIP that will be the end of your ride.

Also ask the seller to hand you the TIP if its still valid. Get a poder to authorize you to ride "his" bike in Colombia. That way yopu can leagally ride it in Colombia.