TVIP in Argentina
 

Ushuaia is part of some kind of trade zone in tierra del fuego Argentina.
That affects selling and buying bikes.

But
Is there any impact on TVIP for the bike ?
Or do you get the stadard TVIP for three months, when you enter the Argentinan part of Tierra del fuego ?

??

As far as I am aware it's a duty-free zone, so no sales tax, however although duties are managed by the Customs people it has nothing to do with your TIP, which has to do with entering and leaving the country. It's not a bonded area, like those at ports.

background
 

I read a travel story from a man who rode his Honda from Mexico to Ushuaia.
Left the bike there at the Honda service workshop.
And returned "much later" to ride it back up again.

But it was along time ago.
And the man is now gone. so I can't ask him.
And regulations might have changed.
I just have/had a hope the the 3 months limit for TIP was not applicable for Ushuaia. I would like to leave a bike there for six months.
Doing Colombia-Ushuaia.
Leave the bike for 6 months and then return to ride it back to Colombia.

But I assume that is not possible

But if anyone know some way to do this.
Please update

Thanks

The TIP for Argentina was always valid 8 months as far as I recall. Chile is 6 months. Most other South American countries are 3.

Beware of the weather. March can already be extremely cold. June to August is deepest winter. Ushuaia is 3000km further south than anywhere in Africa.

Update
 

Thanks.
if it is 8 month. that is great news.

Yes I am aware of the climate. I hope to use Nov-Jan/Feb for the ride.

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I found information. But it is old :

I just returned from Artgentina last month and can tell you exactly what the law says because a customs agent (ADUNDA) pulled out the book and showed me. The law states that the TVIP can be issued for eight months only as long as the owners visa is good for eight months. In my case, I always go on a 90 day tourist visa since all you need is a stamp in your passsport at the airport when you arrive.

However, for four years I was always able to get an 8 month TVIP at the border crossing so I could store the bike and was never asked to prove I had a visa for longer that 90 days. It always worked until last month. I tried renewing the TVIP at the border crossings in Chile and Urugray and the Adunda (CUSTOMS) office in Rosario. They all refused to give me the 8 month permit because they suspected I was living in Argentina and was simply crossing the closest border to renew my paperwork.

In my opinion, if it's the first or second time getting a TVIP and you ask, they will give you the full 8 months even though thats not what the law states. In my case, the computers at every border crossing clearly showed a record back to 2009 of every crosssing I had made and they said it was enough.... :

Interestingly, the computer record also showed the Adunda personel had failed to update the computer showing I had left the country on four of the nine or so TVIPs even though I always left in time and turned in the paperwork.
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Anyone that has tried to get a TVIP for 8 months last year ?

I think the Argentine 3 month tvip is, in your respondent's case, because of BsAs proximity to Montevideo and people (locals/ tourists) doing vehicle border runs.

There are plenty of more obscure borders along the 5000km length of Chile/Argentina mutual border. The citizens of many countries don't require tourist visas anywhere in South America, but usually you're only allowed 3 months per visit, while vehicles are 8 months in Argentina, 6 in Chile, 12 in Uruguay and 3 everywhere else.

An aside: once in 2019 (of at least 25 different border crossings Chile/Argentina over 2 decades/ 3 trips) leaving Argentina to Chile between Mendoza and Santiago, the Argentine customs officer flatly refused to stamp my US American bike out of Argentina... So there are probably 100s of gringo vehicles still "illegally" in Argentina according to their IT system, including mine, not :rofl: The bike is currently halfway between Istanbul and Vladivostok :D

Opposite
 

Hi
yes but having a bike illegal in Argentina, when it is not there is no problem.

But to leave it in Argentina longer then the TVIP allows might cause large problems. I do not know of Argentina rules. But everything from fines to confiscated bikes have happened

My case ist that I want to leave the bike for 6 months in Argentina. While returning to Europe. And it needs to be planned. I can't just go to the border ans see what happens. If I get 3 months TVIP. I can't return to Europe. Need to ride out of Argentina within 3 months. To short to do what I need to do in Europe.

But I guess this is the SA way of doing things. There are rules and reality. Not always matching.

I'll make this my last reply to the OP.

I get the impression that you haven't travelled much on your own bike outside N America or Europe. I'm bemused that everything needs planning to the nth degree right now. :innocent:

Random comments as I think of them:

I've never been stopped by a policeman in Argentina while riding in many thousands of km.

If you don't like the paperwork when entering ARG at the first border, ride out at the next and re-enter at the same place the day after. Or re-enter at the next border down or across. Consider Bolivia and Paraguay as points to enter from too. When you have the paperwork you like, stay in ARG until Ushuaia.

Just leave at the Paso des Liberatores border from Mendoza to Santiago de Chile. ARG aduana don't give a sh!t.

Park the bike in Chile (take ferry from Puerto Natales northwards to Puerto Montt to avoid some of the boring ride northwards)?

Ruta 3 is the most boring road in the world and Ruta 40 (through Patagonia, since it was paved) the second most boring IMHO.

South America moves at a different speed to Western Europe.

There are many region specific Facebook groups where you'll get input, some excellent, some utterly useless. Trying to get any useful information here on the HUBB won't happen as very few people come here anymore.

Yes but, no but, yes but...:clap:

...or, use a CdP - valid for a year, extendable for another year. The limit is the shorter of the period allowed in the country you're visiting and any limit on period out of the country in the country of registration.

We've left a vehicle in Argentina and returned home for personal reasons and then returned to Argentina with no problems (although not for 8 months).