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chasbmw 10 Mar 2020 22:33
Michael,

I would probably take a ferry to France

Just have to assume that versions of what’s happening in Italy will be all over the Mediterranean over the next 6 weeks or so.

The kill rates in Italy are a bit alarming at the moment.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do

Charles

Hkon89 11 Mar 2020 20:21
Thanks for your input!

I'm not concerned about the money, more about having a bike I can't reach. I'm getting more and more certain there's a risk Spain could be closed off before I can get there to pick up my bike. As you say Michael, being stuck in Morocco could also be a bummer. I have planned a three month trip, exactly where I go doesn't matter. There's 51 000 km of TET waiting to be explored, I'm sure I'll figure out some other places to visit if Spain and/ or Morocco is unreachable. I'll wait and see until next week about shipping the bike, but it doesn't look like a good idea at the moment..

PanEuropean 11 Mar 2020 23:27
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Originally Posted by Hkon89 (Post 609893)
...There's 51,000 km of TET waiting to be explored, I'm sure I'll figure out some other places to visit if Spain and/ or Morocco is unreachable. I'll wait and see until next week about shipping the bike, but it doesn't look like a good idea at the moment..
I think you are on the right track with that thinking - this summer is not going to be a good time to be far away from home.

I'm currently sitting in a hotel in Tozeur, Tunisia, trying to figure out what my options are for getting home to Canada.

The situation reminds me of an old saying in the aviation industry: "It's better to be on the ground, wanting to be in the air, than in the air, wanting to be on the ground."

Michael

Hkon89 12 Mar 2020 08:54
I hope you can figure it out and get home safely, Michael!

backofbeyond 12 Mar 2020 10:21
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Originally Posted by PanEuropean (Post 609897)
I think you are on the right track with that thinking - this summer is not going to be a good time to be far away from home.

Michael
Indeed. I have a bike trip in the USA coming up in just under a month and starting to wonder about whether Coronavirus is going to make it impossible. It's bad enough having to consider the health implications of catching it (particularly as I'm in the 'serious' demographic) but the increasingly severe travel restrictions that are now starting to appear are adding an extra dimension. At the moment the UK is not included in the travel from the EU ban the US has just brought in but I wonder if it's only a matter of time. Even if I did get there am I going to be able to get back.

I'm still planning on my August bike trip being possible but I have to admit I'm holding back on booking ferries / hotels etc.

mark manley 12 Mar 2020 10:27
It looks like all flights to the US from Europe are off for non-US residents or citizens for a while. Flights are still open to all from the UK although I am unclear as to whether non-UK citizens can use them but I have not seen any specific ban but either way, I am glad not to have any trips booked at the moment, it is a good time to be at home.

Tomkat 12 Mar 2020 11:26
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Originally Posted by mark manley (Post 609909)
It looks like all flights to the US from Europe are off for non-US residents or citizens for a while. Flights are still open to all from the UK although I am unclear as to whether non-UK citizens can use them.
I can see all UK-US flights being fully booked with lots of connecting flights attached. How the US authorities plan to deal with that I don't know, but I suspect they will find a way.

chasbmw 12 Mar 2020 11:35
Rumour has it that the UK is excluded because Trump has golfing resorts in Scotland......

If you are going to shut down flights, there is no logical reason to exclude the UK

I’m supposed to be skiing in France in a weeks time, not sure if I will be going.

backofbeyond 12 Mar 2020 12:21
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Originally Posted by Tomkat (Post 609911)
I can see all UK-US flights being fully booked with lots of connecting flights attached. How the US authorities plan to deal with that I don't know, but I suspect they will find a way.
That's what's top of my trip worries at the moment, that so many banned Schengen travellers will now be flying out of London that Trump will chuck the UK + Ireland onto the list in a week or two.

Skiing is an interesting one. We have a flat in a French ski resort which is let out through an agency for the winter. There's been a huge music festival in the resort in March for the last few years but Coronavirus has killed it this year. I had an email from the agency yesterday saying that the flat was now vacant for that week. I've toyed with going down for a week's skiing but it's too short notice. That's one of the town's main moneyspinners for the year gone. How many day or weekend skiers are going to rethink their plans - particularly as it's virtually on the Italian border - is anyone's guess.

chris 12 Mar 2020 13:50
Per 1pm on 12March2020 from a reputable source:

Trump's EU coronavirus travel suspension explained: who is affected and will it help?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...vel-suspended?

It's a clusterfcuk

A UK staycation is a go go

chasbmw 12 Mar 2020 14:08
The NC 500 will be hideously busy this year, but possibly a reduction in camper vans

GPZ 12 Mar 2020 14:11
Very good!

chris 12 Mar 2020 14:21
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Originally Posted by chasbmw (Post 609918)
The NC 500 will be hideously busy this year, but possibly a reduction in camper vans
I've ridden it a couple of times when it was called the "west coast of Scotland". It'll be great to go again, especially if the winnabagel brigade stay away.

motoreiter 12 Mar 2020 15:13
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Originally Posted by chris (Post 609916)
Per 1pm on 12March2020 from a reputable source:
It's a clusterfcuk
Don't worry, it will get worse! :thumbdown:

Wait till Europe retaliates by blocking US citizens from entering the EU, airlines cancel all transatlantic flight due to lack of passengers, etc.

Currently scheduled to fly from the US to Germany in mid-May then ride around the Black Sea, but the chances of some of the relevant borders getting closed seems kinda high, so I'm waiting to see what happens.

chasbmw 12 Mar 2020 15:39
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Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 609913)
That's what's top of my trip worries at the moment, that so many banned Schengen travellers will now be flying out of London that Trump will chuck the UK + Ireland onto the list in a week or two.



Skiing is an interesting one. We have a flat in a French ski resort which is let out through an agency for the winter. There's been a huge music festival in the resort in March for the last few years but Coronavirus has killed it this year. I had an email from the agency yesterday saying that the flat was now vacant for that week. I've toyed with going down for a week's skiing but it's too short notice. That's one of the town's main moneyspinners for the year gone. How many day or weekend skiers are going to rethink their plans - particularly as it's virtually on the Italian border - is anyone's guess.


Issue with Skiing is that most years you come down with a day of Lurgy, always believed it was due to the bugs from all over Europe having a mingle


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