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Daffers 3 Feb 2015 08:44

Buy bikes Cape Town and tour East Africa
 
Looking to tour east Africa. The problems and costs of getting our bikes from the UK are making us think about buying bikes in Africa. Possibly Cape Town or Nairobi.
Wondered if anyone had any recent info on this. We have to consider registering the bikes, taxing, insuring, carnets. And of course any recommendations on where to buy the bikes. Can we resell them? Probably heaps more questions.

Any advice gratefully received.

Moto Zulu 5 Feb 2015 08:18

Cape Town would be a good place to buy, easy to Register in your Name and you can ride with SA registered bike up to Kenia on TIPs.


Jürgen from LeCap always knows some bikes for sale

LarryMcG 12 Feb 2015 08:11

Hi Daffers

Find Wild Dogs - should be plenty of guys who will help!!

Wild Dog Adventure Riding - Index

Daffers 12 Feb 2015 09:07

Hi LarryMcG

Thanks for this. Will follow it up.

mark manley 12 Feb 2015 19:05

I know someone who did this about four years ago with no real problems. They bought in South Africa, travelled as far as Kenya and back with no carnet and sold again in South Africa. Not sure of all the details but it is possible.

jordan325ic 13 Feb 2015 06:56

This was posted recently:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...t=South+Africa

Daffers 13 Feb 2015 16:52

Found that info just after I posted my query. It has just the right info we need, looking very promising now. Just have to find the right bikes to buy.

Ido Weiner 18 Feb 2015 22:25

South East Africa - Questions and Answers
 
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Hi Daffers

I'm the one who posted the guide on how to buy a bike .

I've been travelling in Southern Africa for the last 6 months so i can help you with any info you might need .
Write down all the questions you have and ill reply ...

Daffers 25 Mar 2015 12:07

Hi Ido

Sorry for the delay in replying. There will be loads of questions. We have made contact with a Honda bike dealer, and accept the fact that it may take a while to organise the registration, but I am sure we can keep our selves busy. Hope to be out there October this year. Will check through your info on the forum and will be in touch.

Daffers 25 Mar 2015 12:08

Hi LarryMcG

Wild Dogs have been great. Thanks for the advice.

davidr1 31 Mar 2015 18:34

Hi Ido,

It looks like you've been through Uganda. I went last year (by plane) to a spot you must have passed. Now I want to go by bike. I'd ship it to South Africa and ride from there.

Can you recommend the quickest route from Cape Town (I guess that's where the plane lands!) to Kampala through Rwanda? I'd be taking time off work and it's not really a sight-seeing trip, so what's a reasonable minimum time it could be done?

Also, when is the best weather. Those red dirt roads are endless and get awful slippery when wet.

Many thanks
David

Daffers 17 Nov 2015 05:41

Been in SA almost a week now. Attended the HUBB at Elgro Lodge, what a fantastic place, thanks Kobus. Met wonderful, helpful people. Currently in Pretoria waiting for bike paperwork to be completed, bought 2x Honda 250 crf. Hope to head to Blyde River Canyon for the weekend, unfortunately in a hire car. Might see some of you on the road.

reggie3cl 17 Nov 2015 10:44

Well if you're stuck in a car, go to Kruger, or better still, one of the lodges in Greater Kruger where your guide can go off road. We stayed at Balule and had a great time. Hazyview is a nice base- try the Rissington Inn.

Daffers 22 Nov 2015 11:41

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Made it Graskop. A very long ride on a small bike. What a beautiful area. God's Window, 3 Rondavels, Pilgrims Rest and wonderful dirt roads to practice on.

TillyM 26 Nov 2015 15:16

Hi Daffers,
did you have any luck shopping around Cape Town?? I am also on the hunt for a smaller Honda, second hand preferably. An XR 200 or maybe something as small as a CG125... I haven't had the greatest amount of luck yet. May I ask what you paid for your bike and did you purchase it brand new?

Thank you,

Tilly

Daffers 8 Dec 2015 08:54

Hi Tilly

We got new bikes from Honda Menlyn in Pretoria. 250 CRF. Speak to Albie Eager there. He may be able to help.
Tel 0027 82 698 8589. Good luck.

gbags 8 Dec 2015 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto Zulu (Post 494610)
Cape Town would be a good place to buy, easy to Register in your Name and you can ride with SA registered bike up to Kenia on TIPs.

"TIPs"? What are they please?

Daffers 10 Dec 2015 17:33

TIP Is a temporary import permit. SA bikes do not need a carnet.

Mark500x 11 Dec 2015 21:46

Hi Daffers, I'm curious how long it took you to be able to get a TRN so that you can register the bikes you bought? I'm a Brit coming to SA in 3-4 weeks but I only have 6 weeks total in country so I'm worried about getting delayed with bureaucracy etc. I read the very helpful guide that was posted earlier in the thread, I was just wondering about how it all went for you, thanks very much.

nextlife 12 Dec 2015 05:59

I'm currently in Cape Town. I arrived on Wednesday morning. Dropped my stuff off at my hostel and went straight to the traffic department to apply for TRN. They accepted my paperwork without any reservation(I used the documents Ido posted). The lady told me it could take six weeks but to come back in 2 weeks to check. I hope this is not the case. I will go and check every week.

Mark500x 12 Dec 2015 07:57

Thanks for the info nextlife, hope it works out for you soon.

Are you going to try and buy a new bike or a second hand one? I'm wondering if it would be possible to find a sympathetic second hand seller that would simply sign the bike over to someone allowing usage rather than transferring ownership and thus not requiring and TRN. One problem with this though is selling the bike afterwards.

Daffers 15 Dec 2015 20:34

Hi. Now in Durban with the bikes. Could not get TRN in Pretoria. Told we needed a 6 month visa not 3 month as given at the airport. We have affidavits from Honda Menlyn manager saying we can take the bikes across borders. Fingers crossed. Try speaking to Albie Eager manager of Honda Menlyn near Pretoria.
Just ridden through Lesotho and Sani Pass. Scary.

Mark500x 15 Dec 2015 21:14

So did you buy the bikes outright or are you kindof "renting" them with the affidavit?

Lesotho and Sani pass was scary security wise?

Daffers 18 Dec 2015 06:39

Sort renting them with an affidavit, although we have payed for them.

No security problem in Lesotho, it was the dirt roads and Sani Pass which scared me. I am not an off-road rider. Most spectacular views I have ever seen, you must go.

Mark500x 18 Dec 2015 06:54

Ahh great thanks for the tip, I'll add it to my list of places to visit.

So did you find a private buyer that was happy to "sell" to you with an affidavit? I'm thinking of seeing if I can find someone that can do the same for me. Sorry for all the questions, thanks for you help!

nextlife 19 Dec 2015 16:06

I received my TRN on Thursday:)

I purchased new from the Honda dealership.

So happy everything worked out okay

cheers

Daffers 15 Jan 2016 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark500x (Post 524291)
Ahh great thanks for the tip, I'll add it to my list of places to visit.

So did you find a private buyer that was happy to "sell" to you with an affidavit? I'm thinking of seeing if I can find someone that can do the same for me. Sorry for all the questions, thanks for you help!

Hi

Lots of people expressed and interest in buying the bikes when we return to Pretoria in April. Currently in Mzuzu Malawi.

lorraine 15 Jan 2016 16:43

Heading to Uganda next week, will be buying a bike there. Click on link below and you'll see how this all unfolds. :-)

Daffers 22 Jan 2016 13:28

Hi Lorraine. Tanzania at the moment heading to Kilifi in Kenya then Nairobi. If you are still in Nairobi would be good to met up as we pass through. Bikes will probably need servicing there. Any suggestion where we take them. Honda 250 CRF. Plan to go to Uganda on our way south back to Pretoria.

gbags 24 Jan 2016 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto Zulu (Post 494610)
Cape Town would be a good place to buy, easy to Register in your Name and you can ride with SA registered bike up to Kenia on TIPs.


Jürgen from LeCap always knows some bikes for sale

TIPs?
If I ship a bike or buy one there, is there a trading block for the southernmost countries that allows me to move the bike around more freely?


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