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Frank Warner 12 Oct 2007 03:00

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Originally Posted by impasto (Post 154029)
Permission to collate and collect and put in a simple/organised format which even girls can follow?

Feel free to include/edit/kick http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...919#post148124

mollydog 12 Oct 2007 06:15

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Originally Posted by FatChance (Post 146505)
Oh, before the last trip we took to Moab on the DR650s, I adjusted the valves on my '05. I got about 1/4 mile before the bike quit. I had forgotten to "bleed" the looped fuel line I use with the IMS tank when I reinstalled the tank. I seem to make that mistake about once a year...

Hmmmm...interesting. I put on an inline filter (little cone shaped one) and the bike wouldn't run. Pulled filter off...all good. I have the IMS and it doesn't apprear the filter will work...especially when the IMS tank is low.

Is there an easy solution to this? I need to be able to access every drop of fuel in that tank. Ideas?

Cheers,

Patrick:mchappy:

XT GIRL 12 Oct 2007 07:42

As promised...
 
I've done a quicky hatchet job on this thread and then stole some stuff from other places and cobbled it all together and present to you the DDPP courtesy of all you good blokes on here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...878#post154155

Its meant to be a draft so you guys to look at and comment... so go ahead.


I'm trying to come up with a more STYLISH solution, since we are not allowed to use HTML on here... and am only limited to 18,000 characters!!!!! So I've had to leave a SHED LOAD of stuff out!! :helpsmilie:


IN particular - FRANK WARNER's great guide definitely has a place on the DDPP - but no space!

I'm a web/graphic designer, so can create a separate space for it.. but it will kind of defeat the whole purpose.

a) It should remain in the HUBB, cos thats where I'd be looking for info and b) I dont want to have to use several posts to cover it.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

mollydog 21 Oct 2007 22:05

[B]Time to put it all to the test![/B]
 
Ok, no reply on the fuel filter...this will have to be an on the road project.

I'm heading to Mexico (and beyond) in a couple days, will report in if I can manage to set up a blog here. I'll let you all know what worked and what didn't and ....hopefully why, or why not. :thumbup1:

Will post back with URL or whatever.

I hope some of this thread will help other DR riders in getting set up...and other riders of other bikes too. And be sure the see the nice compileation by Impasto
on the DDPP thread as well.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...878#post154155

Patrick:Beach:

Lone Rider 21 Oct 2007 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 154150)
Hmmmm...interesting. I put on an inline filter (little cone shaped one) and the bike wouldn't run. Pulled filter off...all good. I have the IMS and it doesn't apprear the filter will work...especially when the IMS tank is low.

Is there an easy solution to this? I need to be able to access every drop of fuel in that tank. Ideas?

Cheers,

Patrick:mchappy:

I run a paper fuel filter designed for lawn mowers, so I'm sure that small stone, cone-shaped filter will fit. My guess is that you just had air in the line.
Looping the line will allow you to have bends that aren't as tight, compared to trying to run it straight to the carb inlet tube.
I use 1/4" automotive fuel line, not the light OEM tubing.

Pulling the carb inlet line will ditch the air.

FatChance 26 Oct 2007 18:39

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Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 155383)
Ok, no reply on the fuel filter...this will have to be an on the road project.

Sorry for the delay, Patrick. If I'm reading the problem correctly, I don't think you have a problem with the fuel filter, but instead need to "bleed" the fuel line of air. As noted (with full details for others), the IMS tank fuel outlet is a little lower than the carb fuel inlet. I have a fuel line that "loops" upward from the petcock and down to the carb to avoid any kinks in the fuel line. For this to work, there has to be gas in the line for it to flow properly down to the carb so it siphons if there isn't enough fuel "pressure". Sometimes, based upon the amount of fuel in the tank or if it has recently been installed, there can be air in the line at the top of the loop and the fuel will not flow. To fix this, I simply disconnect the fuel line at the carb, pull it down until it freely flows gas, plug the line with my finger while putting it back on the carb inlet and tighten it up. That fixes any fuel starvation problem caused by the looped fuel line. Bob - are we talking about the same issue with the looped fuel line?

Also, to get the maximum amount of fuel out of the tank when the level is really low and the bike has started to sputter, I lay the bike over to the left to drain the right tank lobe into the left lobe if I have run out. When I do this, I usually have to bleed my fuel line because it has probably run dry...

Lone Rider 26 Oct 2007 19:15

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Originally Posted by FatChance (Post 156053)
.... Bob - are we talking about the same issue with the looped fuel line?.............

Xactly
....

Hornet 28 Oct 2007 20:28

I have been offered a new Suzuki DR650 at a really good price. Suzuki seem to be over-stocked on these. I am however struggling to find hard luggage for this bike. The Suzuki dealers in New Zealand are not aware of any. I have considered soft luggage but would prefer hard luggage. I notice from earlier comments that some travellers have used Pelican cases. Adventure Motorcycle Equipment in the USA have a Caribou Case System (it looks like they are Pelican cases) for USD695.00 including the mounting system. Pictures and details are on their website. I like the look of the cases and they seem easy to fit (even for technically challenged people like me).

Has anyone used these cases and are they as good as they are made out to be? Is the company reliable? Are there any other hard luggage systems available?

Peter

Lone Rider 28 Oct 2007 20:46

Mr Fat Chance runs pelicans.

Walkabout 28 Oct 2007 21:36

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Originally Posted by Hornet (Post 156334)
I have been offered a new Suzuki DR650 at a really good price. Suzuki seem to be over-stocked on these. I am however struggling to find hard luggage for this bike. The Suzuki dealers in New Zealand are not aware of any. I have considered soft luggage but would prefer hard luggage. I notice from earlier comments that some travellers have used Pelican cases. Adventure Motorcycle Equipment in the USA have a Caribou Case System (it looks like they are Pelican cases) for USD695.00 including the mounting system. Pictures and details are on their website. I like the look of the cases and they seem easy to fit (even for technically challenged people like me).

Has anyone used these cases and are they as good as they are made out to be? Is the company reliable? Are there any other hard luggage systems available?

Peter

Try to get Suzuki to send their overstock to the UK; there are quite a few people in this country who would take one!

For your luggage query, do a search for "hard luggage" - there have been loads of posts about this in the past, probably in the equipment review forum.

Hornet 28 Oct 2007 22:27

Hi Dave

Thanks for the advice. The DR650's were sent to New Zealand from California. At the price they are a really good buy.

Peter

FatChance 29 Oct 2007 17:48

The Caribou cases are a very nice system. However, they were not available for the DR650 when I wanted luggage for our DR650s, so I cobbled together my own. I used Moto-sport pannier racks and their universal mounting kit for the Pelicans I just bought over the internet. Moto-sport racks and mounting kits can be found HERE. This way, I could do the racks, mounts and Pelicans for right at $500 (usd). What you get for the extra money for Caribou's setup is a quick release capability. My setup requires removing two screws for each pannier. Since I seldom remove the panniers from the bike (I also use pannier liners to remove their contents easily), paying the all the extra $$ for the quick release system was not cost effective. BTW, I have this same system on both my '05 DR650 as well as my wife's '00 DR650.

johnwesley 1 Dec 2007 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet (Post 156334)
Are there any other hard luggage systems available?

Peter


happy-trail.com has some for the dr. I use their set up on my klr. I will be puting their bags on my wife's dr The teton 7" is what I would recomend. They are lighter than the pelican bags. They ship over sea and are good help on adventure rides.

MikeS 5 Dec 2007 23:06

Dr650 Se 2003
 
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...5-2003-a-31432

I've been offered a 2003 DR650SE in Australia for $5,000Au with 6,000kms and a staintune exhaust which I believe gives a bit more power and allows a wider choice of luggage options.

It seems a good deal but I know very little about these bikes other than the earlier year models might have had a few issues. So apart from the normal stuff you look for when buying a bike, is there anything in particular I should look for and is this about the right sort of money for this kind of bike in Australia?

Hornet 5 Dec 2007 23:39

Hi Mike

Others with far more experience and knowledge of these bikes can comment on the technical details. I have just bought a 2007 DR650 and absolutely love it - they are fun and easy to ride. I paid NZD8 000 for mine. They really are great bikes. The upgrade options (tank, screen and luggage) in NZ and AU are very limited but you can get much in the USA on the net. I imported a larger IMS tank and a screen. Even in NZD they were reasonably priced.

Would probably pay to see what you could get a new one for.

Peter


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