So what's the situation with that horrific sounding,American built pile of junk that comes from new like it?...

Hi Lynch
I like bikes loud too - in the right enviroment :thumbup1: Loud cans wont save you - look at all the drivers who wear earphones , windows up on mobiles , stereos turned up etc etc . The only thing they are going to cause is legislation , as the voting public , who dont like them ring their mps and cause a fuss .
But i do like your style :funmeteryes:

Even if it is at 0500 in a built up area!

MarcM
Think you mean screamin eagle pipes . Well my friend bought a harley with those fitted and was told by the dealer "bring it here when its mot d " so am guessing they are illegal .

Totally, there is a time and a place for loud exhausts............4:30 am is not one of those times but when filtering through traffic and riding past a truck where your view is blocked a blip of the throttle could alert pedestrians there is a bike filtering:scooter:

or, when your view is obscured you could slow down!

It is for the pedestrians benefit doh nothing to do with my speed :thumbup1: It hopefully gives them more time to react instead of blindly walking out in front of me:thumbup1:

I find it kind've remarkable that a skills instructor defends this position. I sure hope you don't clobber some hapless pedestrian who doesn't hear you coming due to inattention, hearing loss, headphones, hat and scarf, competing noises from any source, or whatever else.

I'd add that it's certainly possible I'm mistaken in my interpretation of what you're saying here, which appears to be that you feel ok about filtering at a speed which would not allow you to stop safely should a relatively common event (a pedestrian stepping into the road between stationary vehicles) occur. If that's the case, you might think about the fact that others appear to be misinterpreting too…which suggests you might not be as good a teacher as you appear to believe.

Take it for what it's worth to you.

Mark

One thing to bear in mind in the noisy moped vs noisy big bike argument is that it is possible to ride a big bike with a loud pipe on quietly when necessary (low rpm/small throttle opening).

On a moped the throttle has only one position ..................

Blimey ive started a war :oops2:I only posted to gently take the pxxs out of the posters comments on law and order non action doh Will lock my self in the toilet with the construction and use legislation and not come out until i can spell ackropovic !!

I filter at a speed that that I can stop in the distance that I can see to be clear, making noise as I ride through traffic gives me one more possible advantage of being heard by pedestrians before they step out in front of me :thumbup1:
If another road user could benefit from that signal, why not use it?

I am not on here to coach anyone nor have my spelling checked but thanks anyway:thumbup1:

There is something particularly annoying about the whine of a 50cc CVT scooter ridden at top speed at 4.30 am. Its akin to the single mosquito inside your tent. I'm fairly certain that the majority of the doodlebugs buzzing round are 4-strokes and that the only modification done to the exhaust system is a few extra holes caused by the mild steel exhausts rusting out.

In all likelihood, one of these going past a house being ridden gently and considerately at whatever tome is unlikely to be a nuisance. The problem is when it's ridden at full tilt, possibly on the back wheel alone past your windows for seemingly hours on end.

Mind you it's still a more pleasant noise than the buzz of 50cc scooter, followed by the jump in revs as it gets air off a speed bump, then crumpling metal, smashing plastic and splintering bone and then the long silence broken eventually by the ever increasing sound of sirens approaching.

No matter what I might feel about them that's not an experience I'd like to repeat.

The solution? Better upbringing for the kids so that there's a far greater understanding of the responsibilities we have as citizens and far less focus on "my rights".

I blame the parents.

Lynch
Whose been checking your spelling :eek3:

heehee ...I could bite... but I won't!:innocent:

I presume this comment was aimed at me doh......Akrapovic as I had spelt in a previous post was the correct spelling:thumbup1: