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Not me mate , i thought id spelt it wrong too lol . Anyway to finish off this post Loud pipes are officially pants at 0430 am
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I agree..........there is definitely a time and a place:thumbup1:
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As far as unlawful and the police are concerned, well I grew up in a middle class neighbourhood in the sixties and seventies. Yet unlawful and dangerous are great terms to describe a fair amount of our fun activities in our misguided youth. My kids think I had an awesome time as a youngster. :cool4: You might want to leave the cops out of the equation. One day your kids might scream down the street where your current miscreant is living with an expansion chamber you helped them to fit on their 50 ccm. :mchappy: Maybe this thought can help to brighten your day/night. Take care. |
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That is a really bad idea :thumbdown: Never mind the road traffic issues , you are potentially committing an offence of unlawful imprisonment - dont do it !! However i understand your frustrations..................................... |
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fair dos quoting legislation, but the problem is the government cut backs,, police don't police anymore. How often do you see traffic cops patrolling? Mostly they travel from incident to office to incident..
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Tis true - but they certainly would travel to that one if said kid told his mum and she then complained . Whilst there are cut backs "fire brigade" policing has been going on for years im afraid .
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ever hear of a little property called 'the dopler effect"?...at speed your actualy ahead of your sound by feet (or meters) based on speed of course. You end up a hood (bonnet) decoration before your heard. those kind of pipes are to boost as much power as possible and to hell with what people think. |
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Read back on my posts, I am not explaining my reasons again. |
also, when you skim past a car with those pipes you can shock the driver, causing them to swerve. loud pipes has absolutely nothing to do with safety
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Lets dispel the stupid (mindless) MYTH that loud exhausts save lives! It's complete twaddle - NONSENSE!
I believe the person who has it about right is EvilNerdLord above. These loud (unlawful) exhausts are, above all designed to increase power and TO HELL WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE IT. These things are becoming the bane of many people's lives and the law needs to be changed to STOP their import. I would go further and make it a criminal matter giving the police powers to seize the vehicle and crush it (sect 165 RTA). Our roads are NOT properly policed the way they used to be, that's a fact. What we need is more plain cars and REAL Traffic Coppers who love busting the BAD guys (not criminalizing law abiding Joe Public). What we have in place at the moment is a bunch of self-serving police chiefs appointed by their political masters to recover as much revenue as possible from the law abiding people they are supposed to be serving. Police officers now often have great difficulty working out what constitutes a real criminal offence (one where there is an injured party). Many of our laws have been designed by our political masters to seize revenue from easy touches out there (law abiding citizens are the only people who pay up easily/instantly). I don't doubt there are very good Coppers (thief takers) still out there, but from what I can see they are getting pretty thin on the ground. Sadly they are slowly being replaced with robotic revenue collectors who have no problem criminalizing innocent hapless motorists. It's all about TEACHING US WHOSE BOSS! |
Well the good news is that our political masters in Europe were legislating to prevent the modification of motorcycles using any non-homologated part. MAG and its European counterparts were fighting hard against this but but it's all gone a bit quiet on the news front recently.
I doubt it would make much difference though, I used to live in France where it is already illegal to supply non-homologated parts and the 'peds are still noisy as hell. It's a fact of life that 50cc CVT mopeds and scooters make a particularly annoying noise. |
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Nearly all these automatic scooters / mopeds are ridden by youngsters. They fly around the streets taking enormous risks taking into account their riding ability etc. = Well thats because they only have passed a CBT so cant ride a bigger bike hence youngsters 16/17 I'd like to know why these expansion chambers (cans) are being lawfully imported and sold in the first place to all these little twats.= its not a hand gun but a loud pipe you can buy from any shop or from ebay Maybe its better for kids (16/17) to work and get job to be able to buy scooters ect ect rather than do crack or get smashed on street corners. A 2-stroke sounds loud anyway and more so early in the morning (my car sounds loud early in the morning when i leave at 4am and some street lights go on as i go down the road) |
The push back is a lot of communities are passing noise ordinances and even the feds are looking at all exhausts MUST retain the EPA factory emboss stamp on the pipes to register it (enforced by starting to require smog tests, something never done before...)...at least that was article I read from the AMA a few years ago....
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Dyou know? I too was a bit of a lawless wankrr when I was young but I've never, then or now, seen the appeal of loud, high pitched, buzzing cans. They seem so...geeky, the moto equivalent of being bespattered with acne. Even as kids we preferred something more mature in the exhaust note dept.
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