I disagree about lying. Disclosing why you have gaps had been a benefit in my experience. Even my last interview which has just hired me regardless of new leaving to Africa for six months this April. I find it helps with clients too. Always nice to have an ice breaker. The more random trips you've done the better. My trip through Mongolia on horse back is a massive winner compared to my bike trips.

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I think there is a difference between discussing the 'gaps' and leaving a period of a hole.

Personally I would discuss the time, even if you stretch the truth.

H

As I said previously, I haven't found periodic travel a hindrance in my own chosen career(s), but this definitely depends to some extent on what field you work in. I'd also expect things to differ from one country to the next, and from one phase of the economic cycle to the next (i.e., the people who hire you are going to be far less picky when unemployment is low and they're scrambling to find qualified personnel). Basically, I'm proud of the varieties of things I've done with my life, and anyone who hires me is going to find this a benefit, not a hindrance.

I would definitely refuse to deal in any way, shape or form with a recruiter who encouraged baldfaced lying. If he's got no compunction about suggesting this to me, he's certainly lying himself--which means that nothing he says about the company can be relied upon. If lying is deeply embedded in that company's culture, I probably don't belong there in the first place. Of course I'm not opposed to emphasizing different elements of the truth to suit specific circumstances when I'm looking for work. But the strategies suggested in the post several above this one would not be acceptable to me, or to anyone I'd want to deal with.

I'd add that the attitude on display doesn't even inspire confidence in stories told about this or that past motorcycle journey. There's an inescapable truth here: liars lie. Advertising oneself as such in a forum like this seems....puzzling.

Mark
(Just hanging around waiting for the snow to melt....)

A lot depends on what you want from a working life. Some are better suited to time off than others. If you have your own business and you can afford the loss of earnings (and maybe customers deserting you because you're not there when they want you) the world is your lobster. People who do contract work (IT contractors?) could find this attractive - although most of the ones I know are only contractors for the tax avoidance and do work full time.

If you are employed there is a limit on what you can do, after all an employer has employed you to do a job and you're not much use to him taking 1/4 of he year off or only being with him for 9 months before you leave. Speaking as someone who has been a Hiring Manager I'd be reluctant to take on somebody like that however good he was at his job. And if I found he'd lied on his CV to get it I'd be inclined to sack him because if he's lied about that what else has he lied about? Basically if you want to build a career and climb the greasy pole you need to be there to do it.

My suggestion would be to fit the big trips round your career structure rather than attempt the other way round, because I don't think you'll be able to do both. Most employers won't mind somebody moving every 3-4 years and may even consider granting ULOA if they want to keep you and know you want to come back.

They made you a moderator?:rofl: I guess I have to choose my words carefully so you do not get too offended by your inferiority complex there little buddy!

I am disappointed to know you are not interested in working for my company. I had a great position lined up for you. We just had our last guy leave us on short notice.

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Waiting for confirmation of the inferiority complex...

I would strongly consider not buying motorcycle panniers from a manufacturer who on a motorcycle travel forum suggests lying is a good idea. Would I be able to trust their assertions regarding build quality etc.?

I might also think it prudent to warn off all my friends and acquaintances from considering products from this manufacturer particularly when he tries using tasteless sarcasm when questioned, rather than reasoned argument. Can he be trusted?

I recruit people relatively regularly for my employer.

Travel? Good for you, tell me about it, inspire me, tell me what you learned and how it will help my business. Initiative? Self starter? Resourceful?

Also put yourself in my shoes - what are my concerns likely to be and how can you allay them?

Lack integrity? Sorry, no place for you here. There's only one good way to make people trust you. Be trustworthy!

I can only talk from my own experiences.

I've left good jobs where If I had stayed I'd probably be on a very good salary, driving a German Saloon and be spending Sunday mornings in B&Q with a silicone Sheila..

Instead I lived a life of poverty at home and had great times abroad for extended trips...

I did that on and off throughout my twenties and early thirties. And I spent a lot longer at home being poor than tearing up foreign soil with a killer tan...

But Travelling has taught me that all that materialistic stuff doesn't matter....Mostly !


It's very easy to listen to all the crap motivational phrases like:

"You'll never be hungry with a stomach full of memories"

Or,

"Who needs somewhere to live when you have a you have a bike covered in stickers"

As much as I love travel, adventure and freedom you need to balance it with a some realism.

There are people who travel forever, live off-grid and have birds nests in their hair. It's possible. But everyone I've met like that are grumpy and miserable and destined for living out their old age in a homeless shelter.

Do you want that life ??


I think I did the right thing to travel a lot when I was younger. My only regret is that I didn't do a lot more when I could. Even now in my late 30's I find it incredibly difficult to walk away for months on end. With age comes responsibility and the realism that you can't just start again time and time again. It gets harder, people are less understanding and personally you won't have the energy and patience for it.

The question you're asking has A MILLION variables and depends on your age, your experiences, you bank balance and your responsibilities.


But I think everyone should go off for extended trips a few times in their life as it will dramatically change you for the better.

gatogato....you are a devious, underhanded, untrustworthy, conniving, truth-bending, son of a biatch. You'll not do for me! lol bier

Also depends on your career choice and how good you are at it. I've just changed jobs 2 months ahead of my six months leave without pay. This was a condition for me to move without signing any hr forms or whatever. The other job also gave me approval to do so and even though I'm leaving then kept the door wide open for a return. I work in engineering consulting which uses relatively high fees and subsequently pay. I'm turning 40 this year. Basically, the answer to this question is very personal.

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